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    Valve made the right decision (lemmy.world)
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    [–] lemmeee 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

    99% users won’t ever need that. For cases when they do, they can find guides, modify settings or install software that does what they want.

    You could make the same excuse for Windows.

    Any distro you download can do this exact thing and you wouldn’t know for a long period, unless you spend enough time to compile the whole thing yourself, compare and research.

    You don't have to compile to know this. You can find the list of fully free distros here: https://www.gnu.org/distros/free-distros.html . Debian removes those blobs too, but it's not on that list for other reasons.

    I consider myself knowledgeable but you surely chose a wrong example to teach people about DRM. Try some denuvo or eac maybe.

    That's DRM too and there are many more examples. Blu-ray also contains DRM. And so do most PC games thanks to Valve. Console games on the other hand usually don't have DRM when you buy a physical copy.

    Whatever that means, users don’t care about it. Compared to others, Valve provides a lot more value in most of their solutions. They are hackable just enough to satisfy most enthusiasts.

    I know that most people don't care about their freedom, privacy or security. Most people use Windows. But this doesn't stop us from trying to build a better world for ourselves and to try to convince others to care.

    [–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

    You don't have to compile to know this. You can find the list of fully free distros here: https://www.gnu.org/distros/free-distros.html

    The distros being removed from this list mostly by requests from maintainers means it's not actively monitored or researched at all. So by not verifying it you put yourself on a mercy of other people. It will fail, if not already.

    Console games on the other hand usually don't have DRM when you buy a physical copy.

    That's because you have to use consoles to even read them. They contain hardware DRM and are far from being ethical.

    But this doesn't stop us from trying to build a better world for ourselves and to try to convince others to care.

    Am I missing something or you're thinking that starting with least offenders is a good idea?

    [–] lemmeee 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

    The distros being removed from this list mostly by requests from maintainers means it’s not actively monitored or researched at all. So by not verifying it you put yourself on a mercy of other people. It will fail, if not already.

    What are you talking about? It's a list made by the Free Software Foundation. What was removed? If some information is incorrect, you should be able to prove it.

    That’s because you have to use consoles to even read them. They contain hardware DRM and are far from being ethical.

    I don't know what hardware DRM means, but they use proprietary software, so you are right that they are unethical. I never said they were.

    Am I missing something or you’re thinking that starting with least offenders is a good idea?

    I don't know what you mean.

    [–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

    What was removed?

    Check the Historical section.

    I don't know what hardware DRM means

    It means hardware modules like chips containing the code that you'll have to do a lot of work to even dump, before trying to interpret and make use of it. Physical games also mostly use storage that degrades over time and I consider it another form of DRM.

    I don't know what you mean.

    Why do you bash Valve but not any other company like Apple, Nvidia etc?

    [–] lemmeee 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

    Check the Historical section.

    Those distros are just not being developed anymore, so they are no longer recommended.

    Why do you bash Valve but not any other company like Apple, Nvidia etc?

    I do. I will never buy anything from those companies.

    [–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago

    Those distros are just not being developed anymore, so they are no longer recommended.

    If they would actively monitor all listed distros they wouldn't need to be messaged by maintainers for a distro to get delisted. This means they don't do monitoring. Someone just compiled a list and called it recommendations. It doesn't seem to add anything to the whole process of making sure that public downloads contain only ethical code, if there is even such a thing.

    I do. I will never buy anything from those companies.

    Your comment history doesn't show that. Only a couple of comments about Nvidia, no real thoughts about Apple. But you made at least 2 posts about Valve and oh boy some of your takes on them show you don't really understand what you're talking about.