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[–] [email protected] 47 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

When did Microsoft forget how to do stuff? No one ever said: Wow! I really, really like being forced to use something! My reaction to being forced to use it didn't instantly diminish my desire to use this product!

Even IF their product is good, they crush my desire to try it with shit like this.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Ultimately, most people stay with the default option, that's why they have to be aggressive. Look at the amount of screenshots even in advanced PC communities with ugly useless search bar enabled, which is taking 1/3 of the taskbar. I'm not even speaking about casual users who have no idea that it can be disabled.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

yeah, it's fucking exhausting to go through and disable the 10's or 100's of options they set by default that you don't want. I have a computer that I have disabled updates on because they kept resetting my deeper configs with updates. I'm not getting another windows computer unless I have to because god that shit took so long to set up.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

So they have to be aggressive by automatically adding garbage nobody wants because otherwise people won't bother activating said garbage they don't want?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

No, because most people stick with the default option regardless.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I'm just trying to understand my our point.... You argue they have to do this because people won't bother on their own... Then proceed to back your statement with an example where MS added garbage and people don't bother or can't figure to remove it...

I mean, you and I known MS could simply ask... They don't because they want that slide that says x many million users of Copilot...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I mean, you and I known MS could simply ask…

No.

https://thedecisionlab.com/intervention/how-default-settings-doubled-organ-donation-rates-in-the-us https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3855900/ https://sparq.stanford.edu/solutions/opt-out-policies-increase-organ-donation https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3458339/

That's the best known case, but it's not limited to organ donation of course.

they want that slide that says x many million users of Copilot…

I didn't argue with that.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

That doesn't mean they can't... At most it means is less advantageous for their goals.... Screw the user

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

Not sure what you mean. Do you know about Active Desktop in Win98? They've been doing shit like this since forever.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Sums it up right there. Goes for most of tech in the past decade or so though. Lots of incremental upgrades and nothing really mind blowing. Imo AI is not. At least not yet.