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[–] [email protected] 60 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I'd be really interested to see the specifics of how that data is collected, but also fucking duh recent college grads are underemployed. Also, having that degree sets people up for career advancement as they gain experience and that educational background becomes even more of a prerequisite for the jobs they're moving into

[–] [email protected] 26 points 8 months ago (3 children)

If you are employed in a junior job within the field you have been trained in, you are not underemployed.

What this graph shows however, is that there are a ton of degrees that seem to teach hardly any transferable skills. A sociologist without proper statistical training has almost zero value in the business world. And that's a problem.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

What this graph shows however, is that there are a ton of degrees that seem to teach hardly any transferable skills

This graph absolutely does not show this lol...how could you possibly derive that from this graph

And sociologists are absolutely trained in statistics

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

That's why I explicitly qualified my statement, because not all sociologists are in fact trained in statistics. Many just had the statistics 101 class and went into the more philosophical part of the trade.

The real question is: what else does this graph show in your interpretation?

[–] [email protected] -4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

How does the graph not show that? The chart clearly shows there are a lot of degrees whose holders have "insufficient jobs for their training."

I.e., they were unable to find jobs that utilized the skills they got with their degree. The skills are not sufficiently transferable to jobs.

[–] xtr0n 2 points 8 months ago

I interpret it as there are more degree holders than there are jobs that closely align with that degree. Graduating art history majors are absolutely qualified to be curators at galleries and museums, but there are only a handful of those positions available.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Any decent sociology program will teach a hefty amount of statistics. That's the basis of research.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Sometimes that's the difference between a BA and BS

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Sounds like a BA in sociology is a thing that shouldn't exist.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Maybe the business world is the problem.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Or maybe we just don't need hundreds of thousands of people trained in liberal arts.

I'm not trying to defend businesses here, but there's only so many places for people who are trained in over-analyzing paint and clay.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Mathematics is liberal arts. So is economics.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

Maybe I'm too European for that, but I was under the impression that this is basically an umbrella term for humanities, art, literature, etc.