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The memes of the climate

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The climate of the memes of the climate!

Planet is on fire!

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[–] Kecessa 29 points 4 months ago (5 children)

In other news, emissions from private jets still represent barely anything compared to emissions from freight transport of crap people want delivered at their door tomorrow.

[–] [email protected] 67 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Drop in a bucket maybe but it's for like 0.001% of the population. Which is an insane number per capita at this scale. Magnitudes is one of the biggest things people miss when talking about emissions, one single billionaire pollutes more every single day than thousands average people.
Every single one of us has to make efforts to combat climate change but some a lot more than others.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Comparing fright and person transport seams a bittle apple to oranges. Emission per passenger-kilometer is the only sane way to compare person transport.
Fright should probably be separated into essenstials and luxury, but we all have our yearly footprint.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I thought we ended up learning that giant trucks delivering items door to door was actually greener than store chains since it stops millions of people driving around idling at stop lights constantly vs one truck delivering a shit ton of items.

https://www.washington.edu/news/2013/04/29/grocery-delivery-service-is-greener-than-driving-to-the-store/

[–] Kecessa -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That's the last leg of the journey, try again.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Well I have this giant pile of sauce here saying that you're incorrect... Or... Lol.

[–] Kecessa -1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Or... You don't understand the distinction between stuff you get delivered to your door that comes to your country by plane instead of boat so you can get it ASAP and groceries?

Lol indeed.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Kecessa

Or... You don't understand the distinction between stuff you get delivered to your door that comes to your country by plane instead of boat so you can get it ASAP and groceries?

Lol indeed.

Goalposts: Moved.

[–] Kecessa -1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

My first message is clearly about air traffic and shit people get delivered

https://sh.itjust.works/comment/10627068

You're the one who changed the conversation to only talk about the last leg of the journey that's done by truck. Sure it's more efficient to get your new pan delivered to your door compared to driving to the store to purchase it, but it's not more efficient if it had to travel by plane to get to your door from China ASAP instead of traveling by boat.

Edit: At least that shut you up :)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

We should create boats powered by renewable sources like the wind.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 months ago (3 children)

It's also a drop in the ocean from the pollution dumped out by farms.

People need to stop obsessing about private planes and Tylor Swift bullshit distractions. If all private jets disappeared tomorrow nothing would change in the fight against climate change.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

We absolutely need to keep obsessing over private planes. That's the privilege of a handful of people with massive repercussions for all of us. It's not a zero sum game we need to tackle farming, fossil fuels, plastic and food waste, etc. all at once.
1% of emission here and there quickly adds up when you tally it all.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

That’s the privilege of a handful of people with massive repercussions for all of us

not really though, as many people in this thread have pointed out. People want to rage against the rich, I get it, but it's not helpful to abuse climate change as a reason to do so when their money itself is more enough reason.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If they would use their money to solve it, they would have done it by now. Instead, they're buying medias and broadcast right-wing propaganda. ecology without class struggle is gardening !

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago

It's not like commoners have much control over those things. If the people in charge can't make effective change, either by legislation, by businesses practices, or by example, why would anyone else. People look up to Swift and when they see her flying a private jet, they're less inclined to do their part. And yes, that is a sentiment I've heard. I can put solar panels out, I can switch over to biofuels, I can eliminate vacations, casual travel, and combine as much errant driving as possible, but one private flight by one billionaire throws all that out the window.

Fuck there are people I've stopped talking to because they're too old to figure out discord and I'm too young not to see the climate induced apocalypse.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

but but I need an easily identifiable target for my RAGEEE