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Moving away from Nextcloud AIO, where do I start setting up a Nextcloud instance WITHOUT Docker? (lemmy.world)

submitted 7 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Hi selfhosted! Hope you're having a good day :)

I'm pretty new to self-hosting and have been traipsing through a minefield attempting to make NextCloud AIO work inside Docker. The instance runs for a few days/weeks and then starts getting extremely slow on the website, then dies entirely. Usually, either the ClamAV or Apache containers get stuck in an unhealthy state that no number of reboots or reinstalls can fix.

Quick context for how this all works. I have one machine that runs Proxmox and a group of VMs for various purposes. One such VM runs my Nextcloud. This VM is running Ubuntu 23.10, Docker, and the NextCloud AIO package.

Another VM hosts OpenMediaVault, which contains a set of SMB Shares mounted to the host VM that act as storage for NextCloud. The symlinks (I think I'm using that word right) on the host VM have user and group permissions updated according to AIO's documentation. Proxmox is configured to boot this VM first, then boot the rest in sequence once the files are available.

Right now I've got Nextcloud handling Synchronization of Files, Calendars, Contacts, and Kanban boards via the Deck Extension. Everything else can be abandoned at this point, these are the only functions I'm truly using. If this gives you an idea for an alternative app I'd love to hear it.

So after AIO broke for about the 5th time in the 8 months since I started trying to self-host it, I've been looking at alternatives. Before I go that route, I want to try installing Nextcloud without Docker. Some of the posts I've read here suggest that the Docker distribution of NextCloud has serious issues with stability and safely installing updates.

I plan to make a new VM entirely for this, Distro undecided. I still want to run it as a VM and still use my SMB shares for bulk storage.

So where would I begin if I planned to install NextCloud directly to the VM rather than through Docker?

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (2 children)

If you're willing to use snaps, the next cloud snap is pretty great and easy to set up.

I'm not a fan of snaps nor how canonical push them, but this one gets a pass

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Can confirm, I've been using it for about three years now. With some minimal tweaks for my own us case.

It auto updates itself, can use LetsEncrypt. I've had an A to A+ rating from their own security thing. It does usually stay a few minor point releases behind, but that's never been an issue for me.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Trying not to learn another deployment scheme, but keeping this on the list. Thank you for sharing!

[–] humancrayon 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I too, have been using the snap version for over 4 years and I’ve had zero problems. It has its own VM and autoupdates without a problem.

It’s running on Ubuntu server, which I’ve updated a few times to the most recent LTS without any problems as well.