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[–] Zipitydew 15 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I've watched that video and seen it reposted dozens of times. Michael talks about doctors finding people are aging slower in the intro. Then goes down a completely different path to claim most of this is due to clothing and style perception. Veering off into some weird pseudoscience junk even.

What he could have done is check medical studies of twins that prove smokers age faster. Overlay smoking rates then and now. Come to the medically accepted reason for why this phenomenon exists.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

If you've truly watched that video then it must be a long time ago and are remembering it wrong. Because it does say exactly what you're saying early on in the video, explaining the studies that show how people are now younger from a medical point of view. You then clearly see that the age difference reported in the study from a medical point if view is not nearly wide enough to explain the magnitude of the difference of we perceive in real life.

This is why video then shifts away from the purely medical perspective towards the more subjective reasons that could affect how we perceive people's age. Of course it's not gonna be backed by medical research to support this because the other reasons for this phenomena has absolutely nothing to do with medical science. Medical science doesn't give a shit about the evolution of fashion in haircuts, makeup and clothing. But that doesn't mean that it cannot have an effect on people's perceptions of other's age. It is obvious in the examples provided in the video that this has a far greater effect on the perception of someone's age than the medical explanation alone.

The meme itself is obviously about people's perception of people's age, which is affected by both medical and subjective factors like the evolution of fashion. Trying to pretend that only the medical factor counts is, essentially, ignoring the other half of the argument just to make yourself sound right.

[–] Zipitydew 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Let's play a game then. I know people right now today. Who dress and have facial hair nearly the same as Richard Dreyfuss in this image. They're all late 30's or early 40's.

Go ahead and let me know how old you think he looks. And yes he was a smoker.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Ah yes. Cherry picking an example of recurring fashion. That definitely proves that fashion and style never changes or evolves ever. /s

[–] Zipitydew 10 points 8 months ago (2 children)

These ladies are twins. One of them smoked. One did not.

Michael was so right though. It's all just perception tricks.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

The source is doi:10.1001/archderm.143.12.1543 by the way

[–] [email protected] -5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

And now resorting to a strawman argument. Michael never said that medical effects didn't apply. You really need to watch that video again. And I also agreed that medical factors had an influence. Last paragraph of the comment you just replied to: "which is affected by both medical and subjective factors"