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"Walt Bismarck," a neoreactionary/alt-right blogger, decided to live by his beliefs and move from the liberal hellhole of Arizona to the midwest:

In 2018 I moved from a racially diverse swing state in the Sun Belt to a homogenous red state up in corn country. This decision was largely motivated by politics—I was looking to retreat to an imagined hyperborea free of crime and degeneracy where my volk had political autonomy.

The particular delight here is the section "Reason #3 - White people are no longer my most important ingroup".

It turns out they don't like him, they don't like his ideas, and the white womenfolk don't take to him. The frauleins prefer "stoic chudbots with rough hands and smooth brains" over his noble mind and physique.

In practice a society that encourages late marriage is actually much better for more bookish eccentric guys, who tend to be late bloomers in developing their masculinity and ability to seduce women.

(meaning: he came on weird at one of the nice church girls he was ogling to the point where one of her large guy friends suggested he take his leave.)

Our guy comes so close to introspection, but successfully evades it and reaches the root cause - these are the wrong kind of white people:

But these Midwesterners aren’t descended from entrepreneurial adventurers like the rest of us. Their forebears were conflict averse and probably low testosterone German Catholics who fled Bismarck’s kulturkampf to acquire cheap land under the Homestead Act. These people mostly settled areas where aggro Scotch Irish types had driven off the Injun decades ago, so they never had to embrace the risk-tolerant, enterprising, itinerant mindset that had once fueled Manifest Destiny. Instead they produced families that became weirdly attached to their generic little plot of fungible prairie dirt, and as a result we now have huge pockets of the country full of overcivilized and effete Teutons with no conquering spirit who treat outsiders like shit.

There is no shortage of genuine and active neo-Nazis out Iowa way. But they would have met Wordy NRx Boy here and flushed his head.

In the comments section, other racists call him out on his insufficient devotion to the cause of white nationalism.

Even our good friends at The Motte took the piss out of him.

The illustrations are, of course, AI-generated.

original post. Found on Bluesky by ratelimitexceeder.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Gross. White nationalists should be called what they are, bigots made of dog excrement. Their ancestors would not just be totally ashamed of them, but would actively disown them in every possible way. They are not what represents America and it's ideals, but the exact opposite; they represent horror, hate, subtraction, and misery.

I think the reason they behave like they do is because their own personal lives are so miserable. It's no surprise they have bad relationships and can't get along with reasonable people.

Anyway I wish there was a separate, walled-off island where they could all go and shoot at each other indiscriminately and hang each other from trees over stupid minor differences. If that's what they want, the live in utter hell, then that's exactly what they so richly deserve to have.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

If you don't think white supremacy and nationalism represents American ideals I've got a reality check for you. It absolutely does and there has never been a time when that wasn't true. "Our" country was built on horror, hate, subtraction, and misery.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Maybe I should have said, white supremacy and nationalist don't represent what the dream of America is SUPPOSED to be about. I'm not naive, I'm well aware that unfortunately those things do represent a hell of lot of what's happened here.

All too true that our country was built on a history of violence, displacement, and mistreatment of others, and that's something we need to not erase or forget about, but keep reminding ourselves of so we don't repeat the horrors of the past.

I do agree with you on all the points you're making.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I think I know what you mean when you say that but I think you're still saying basically the same thing. The so called American dream is based on those horrific and violent ideals. We need to go back much farther in our history or look into the history of others if we want to find a time that we had uncorrupted or rather non selfish values. I'm still not sure it ever existed, it certainly hasn't in this "country". What I am sure of is that we can make a better future with or without the outdated notions of American ideals .

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Agreed and let's hope we do build a better future despite the horrors of our past.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Agreed. Thanks for the interesting discussion :)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

Thank YOU as well, I thoroughly enjoyed it!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

your heart's in the right place

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

Thanks - my heart's in the right place, I just have to get the rest of me there somehow. Sorry for going off, but it was something I felt needed saying.