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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by Spluk42 to c/[email protected]
 
 

Hey everybody! It's the middle of August so that means it's time to vote on what to read for September. The most upvoted comment will be the book for September's discussion. The runner-up will be automatically reposted for the next month's vote. In case of a tie I'll move each one involved. If the runner up was your suggestion last month it doesn't mean you have to vote for it this month or can't suggest something new.

Sorry for the long wait between the first vote and the first discussion thread. Wanted there to be enough time to find and read the chosen book. Should go smoother from here on.

Finally a reminder that at the end of the month we will be chatting about Player of Games by Iain Banks. Still time to read it!

September's book club read is Winter World by A.G. Riddle!

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I welcome any comments and input into making this a great Lemmy community!

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Peter Watts' Blindsight should be no stranger to anyone on PrintSF. On our Reddit incarnation, it was recommended in just about every thread asking for recommendations. It was sometimes even a suitable recommendation.

Echopraxia is its much-less-well-known sequel, and it's the Art Garfunkel to Blindsight's Paul Simon. It's definitely not as well thought out or comprehensible, but it still does its own thing pretty well, and is a great complement to the other. Though, it might not quite stand on its own so well.

Watts has changed the setting from near space to, well, nevermind, we're back in space. There are some bits early on that are on Earth, and I thought those were quite promising. There's some great world building - and it really is a fascinating near-future Earth that he's thought up - but, well, a chapter in and we're thrust back into space aboard another spaceship with a whacky crew of post-human misfits.

Which is fine. Blindsight proved he's quite adept at writing that sort of thing. Only, this time around, no one is quite as, uhh, anti-charismatic as the protagonist of that. The main character is as unlikable as Siri Keeton in his own way, but he's not the fascinating character study. He's just a guy past his prime trying to not get killed in a world he doesn't understand very well anymore.

And not getting killed isn't a minor accomplishment in this book. Without getting too spoilery, don't get attached to anyone too much. Not that that's much of an accomplishment, either. The marine who practices combat maneuvers in his sleep, and the vendetta obsessed pilot aren't exactly begging you to be on their side. Neither are the mute hive mind scientists or their interpreter. The latter of whom might actually be the only sympathetic character in the entire book. Hey, I might have felt a twinge of sympathy for the resurrected vampire.

Bashing aside, I enjoyed this book a lot. Much like in Blindsight, Watts loves to throw mind-melting ideas about melting-minds at the pages and seeing what sticks. Quite a few of them did this time around, though not as often as in that one. Some of the mind-melting ideas about melting-minds came across as half-baked or just not particularly well described. For example, the titular Echopraxia only shows up in the last twenty pages or so, and I don't think we're ever told exactly how it came about. Though it's entirely possible I missed it.

On missing things, I must admit, I either missed or plain did not understand a lot of the plot points of this one. Daniel Bruks (the MC I mentioned) finds himself in ludicrous situation after ludicrous situation which are far too coincidental to be coincidental. There are many allusions to things not being quite as they seem, but very few actual revelations of reality. The end of the book in particular seemed very vague to me, though I suspect a lot of what's happening could be inferred by tying it together with Blindsight to make some sort of meta-narrative on the nature of consciousness and its necessity or lack thereof. And yeah, I've lost myself now.

Watts' books typically demand a re-read or two.

Which I'm sure I'll get around to right after I read something mindless and action driven. I need a break.

4/5 holes punched in my consciousness

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For me, best of 2023 was Red Team Blues by Cory Doctorow. A retirement-age forensic accountant traveling around in an ex-rock star bus from Walmart parking lot to next gourmet dining location does a job for a billionaire and suddenly ends up in a surprising amount of hot water over it. Hijinks ensue.

Runner-up goes to Venomous Lumpsucker by Ned Beauman. This is some bleak, bleak humor. Instead of carbon credits, Beauman posits extinction credits. Got a big strip mining operation coming up that will kill off a couple species? Better buy some extinction credits to cover their death! (And remember, it takes more credits to cover for a dead intelligent species, so factor that in!) Next extinction candidate: the Venomous Lumpsucker, but don't make it extinct until you've got all your paperwork done. Researcher and extinction credit manager for a mining company end up in a desperate chase around the planet trying to ascertain if the last of the Lumpsuckers are truly gone or not, and we go along for the ride.

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Mass Effect, Star Trek, similar stuff, without the giant franchise money machine. To consume like popcorn.

One of my favourites is Spiral Wars by Joel Sheppard.

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submitted 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) by Spluk42 to c/[email protected]
 
 

Hey everybody! Sorry I missed last weekend was busy with work. Again this is voting for the book to discuss at the end of October. I'll post the runner up from last month and otherwise post your selection. Don't forget that we will be discussing Winter World by A.G. Riddle at the end of the month / next weekend!

Looks like "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep" wins by default! Since engagement is dropping off here I might defer to the [email protected] book club.

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First discussion thread for the book club. This is for August's book Player of Games by Iain Banks.

Upcoming events: September ~15th: Voting for October's book September 30th: Discussion Thread on Winter World by A.G. Riddle

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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by Spluk42 to c/[email protected]
 
 

What sci-fi books are missing something that seems obvious to us today (and is somewhat central to the story / setting)?

My first thought was Dune with the ban on thinking machines. If you asked just about anyone today they would say the far future would involve computers everywhere. But Frank Herbert wrote Dune in 1965 when computers were huge, specialized machines and we hadn't even landed on the moon yet. And he saw a future where not only computers became ubiquitous but we're then rejected.

So what books jump out as missing something that we would find inconceivable today?

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The title's a bit dramatic, but I was having trouble coming up with a good pun or otherwise.

Hot on the heels of his Daemon and Freedom duology, Suarez cranked out this near-future, techno-thriller in 2012. Which I'm sure made a lot of sense given his success with the former. Unfortunately, it fails to live to up to the non-stop, dumb fun of his first couple of releases.

Where Daemon and Freedom found glee in speculation of near future tech changing the face of the planet, this one is dour to the core. Some shady operation is making drones that kill people autonomously. Some other shady operation sets out to stop them. It's hardly spoiling much to say they (at least partially) succeed in spectacular fashion through a series of larger-than-life set pieces involving copious gunfire and car/plane/drone/boat chases. There's no comedy to be found here, intentional or otherwise. D&F at least had the utter ridiculousness of its happenings to alleviate the constant severity. This one ain't got that.

The characters are as cliche as they come. Hyper-competent super secret agents, scientists, engineers, and shady business people. A couple of them even fall in love, though thankfully the sex is limited to a line of text: "They made love." I really wouldn't want Suarez to push his writing chops too far in that direction given his proclivity for over-the-top action and technological exposition. Both of which are here in quantity.

Overall, I wouldn't call it a bad book. Just an entirely predictable, fairly mediocre one. It comes in pretty short around 300 pages or so I'd imagine if I had a hard copy. The technological stuff is dry, plausible, and not poorly written if you're into that. The action is well done, if somewhat less plausible, and keeps things moving.

3/5 autonomous killer drones

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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/1552706

I got this book because it seemed like a cool edition of The Foundation Trilogy. I later discovered that it glows in the dark when I turned the lights off to go to sleep.

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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by Spluk42 to c/[email protected]
 
 

By popular demand I'm putting together a monthly book club. My plan is to vote for a book to discuss around the middle weekend of the month and to discuss it on the last weekend of the following month. Should give ~6 weeks to find a copy from a library to checkout or purchase it if you like and a little more time to read it in case it's a monster.

Anyone can submit a book title as a comment and the highest upvoted comment at the end of the weekend will be announced as the pick! The runner up will be automatically included in the next month's voting. Please include the title and author information for any submissions and if you feel like it a blurb on why to pick it. If it has limited availability or something where "googling it" might be difficult please include a link.

Edit: Looks like the winner is "Player of Games" by Iain Banks. Look for the discussion thread last week of August and mid-August for the new poll thread. I'll be post the two runner-ups since we had a tie. Happy reading!

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That name cannot be a coincidence, can it? ;)

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Imagine I could only choose 5 sci fi books for a brand new sci fi reader -- what would they be?

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Monthly book club? (self.printsf)
submitted 1 year ago by Spluk42 to c/[email protected]
 
 

Any interest? Vote on a book, hold a discussion thread 4 weeks later. Maybe make the vote it's own post with comments being the books and taking the highest upvoted suggestion. Or most total votes up or down for better discussion later.

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I just finished reading House of Suns. Wonderful book. So many great ideas and such alien concepts. I really enjoyed it.

What should I read next?

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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by Spluk42 to c/[email protected]
 
 

Thought it'd be fun to share what everyone has been reading. I'll try to include titles and authors to make finding more information on them easier as well as a brief synopsis and my thoughts.

I had a lot of travel this week and speed through "Children of Time" by Adrian Tchaikovsky. Great read with very interesting ideas and payoff that had me hooked. Covers human uplifting of other species, their development, and interactions afterwards.

I've also been working on "Strontium Dog" from 2000 A.D. comics (hey, it's sci-fi and it's printed) and made it through most of Vol. 3. In short, the main character Johnny Alpha is a mutant who's only available employment is as a bounty hunter. Very fun read in general, although part of the main beats in this volume are sad.

Started a new novel and continued working on my audiobook but I'll save my thoughts on that for next week / when I finish them.

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Politics, combat, exploration, found family. Recs?

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If so, do you have an opinion? Somewhat of a polarizing work.

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This book was eerily amazing when it was written, but doesn't account for modern technologies. And I haven't really kept abreast of the thriller market.

It feels relevant today with the war in Ukraine and this story, in particular: https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/Mass-Fighting-Breaks-Out-At-Giant-Russian-Gas-Field.html

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Paste a passage from your favourite speculative fiction, replacing all the proper nouns with "Lemmy". Then I'll try to guess where it came from without using google :)

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