Everybody just wants to be controversial these days
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City fans think they can push the goalie into the net if he has the ball and it should count. It's no surprise they try to also justify holding the keeper's arm down.
Oof, this doesn't fit the narrative that Arsenal and Liverpool fans have been pushing
That’s soft and I wouldn’t be happy if it were against us for sure, but the way Ali tried to jump and ended up going more sideways than upwards tells me it impacted him a lot more than what it seemed.
I'm a keeper and I would be absolutely rinsed by the rest of team if I claimed that was a foul.
Good call by the refs. 👍 Refereeing has been fairly good so far.
A goalkeeper is considered to be in control of the ball with the hand(s) when:
the ball is between the hands or between the hand and any surface (e.g. ground, own body) or by touching it with any part of the hands or arms except if the ball rebounds from the goalkeeper or the goalkeeper has made a save
holding the ball in the outstretched open hand
bouncing it on the ground or throwing it in the air
A goalkeeper cannot be challenged by an opponent when in control of the ball with the hand(s).
Learn the rules guys before you complain about referees endlessly
Doesn’t fit the agenda innit
That’s not control though. The ball rebounded from the keeper. If he’d held it, it would be control. Also, “challenge” in this context is about taking the ball off him (like the awful non-decision in a Turkish women’s game recently).
The ball was between his arms making contact with both his gloves. That counts as control under the rules
Challenge can mean that Turkish call or jumping in the air interfering with a keeper trying to catch the ball
Regardless, the mere presence of contact implies a lack of "clear and obvious error"
Most VAR calls that people are mad about are also based on rules.
Tbh I see it more often people being upset at inconsistency. Sure when they happen it may be based on rules, but the other half of the time that don't get called pisses everyone else off
I don’t think it should have been a foul, but I can see why it’s given and I can also understand why on-field decision should not be overturned unless egregiously wrong
Yeah GK’s are protected or you’d have pushes and shoves on them constantly to get advantage.
I get what you mean but literally the reason akanji isn't closer to contend with the ball is because Alisson has pushed him away,which is way more contact than is then made by akanji in the challenge. I get why it's disallowed but it feels really soft.
That Douglas Luiz goal against Arsenal last year makes this funnier. Gotta love prem refs.
Super soft
Imagine if that went against Liverpool
Very cheap foul
Arm pull. Next.
Keeper gets the benefit of the doubt here. Very close to catching the ball but doesn't, and they're is contact on his arm by the city player. Easy decision, only people who want to go against the refs for no reason would think otherwise.
Well yeah, you can’t hold onto goalkeepers arm, immediately a foul.
I love that people say it’s not a foul. Even my girlfriend that doesn’t even watch football told me “are you allowed to grab the guy’s hand?” Lol
Reminds me of Rodri and Casemiro holding hands a season ago 😂
Clear as day foul. Akanji knew what he was doing before Alisson even began to jump.
Alanji tried a similar 'lean' later in the match too, as if pushing a GK into across their own goal line with the ball in their gloves would somehow count. That was also correctly called as a foul.
Never know in the PL. Hard to criticize players for trying this sort of thing with the chaotic standards.
I mean, why not?
What is the penalty for the outfield player for pushing a keeper? At best you get a goal, at worst you give away a free kick. Sure, you might cancel a goal that was going to score regardless, but that probability is so much smaller than forcing an undue goal.
it’s the Pep way to rattle individual players. This is part of tactics.
Clear foul
Absolutely incredible amount of morons in here without a clue about the rules of the game.
If this is foul then joelinton against arsenal is foul too. I say both are foul.
See, calling out PGMOL does make a difference, no everybody do it
Corrupted. The contact is extremely soft. Refs are corrupted. So fking dirty
Lol, the audacity of this comment.
LiVARpool strikes again
liverpool literally had an onside goal against spurs not given you stupid bastard.
Wasn't it also the on-field decision....? :D
Despite being a foul, why is Cias complete alone?
I think City “fans” don’t quite understand the sport here.
Mad that this sub seems to be a place of sanity on this. Watching the match I didn’t think for a second it wasn’t a foul. But the more I read the more journos and pundits keep saying it wasn’t? Just read Jamie Jackson in the Guardian and he doesn’t even seem to comprehend why the goal was disallowed. Doesn’t even mention that the keeper’s arms were being grabbed before and during the cross?!?
Am I going totally crazy, but hasn’t that always been a foul? At least in the past few decades? I’m pretty sure in the 1800s it would have been a main tactic, but imagine it was fine still? Surely then every team would just have two players grabbing an arm a piece on every cross if it’s legitimate. They don’t because it isn’t. You can’t grab a keeper’s arms, I mean that’s just fucking basic shit, surely? Am I missing something?
What you may be missing is Jamie Jackson is a cockney manc who hates Liverpool and writes like he thinks it’s a United fanzine.
We wuz robbed!!
If this was against united, city get that goal.
Only just caught up with the goals from yesterday. How is this controversial. You are never getting away with that kind of contact