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I'm trying to start things up and really not sure what to do next and would really appreciate any advice!

My main goal is offline information and media storage. I don't have too much to start out with at the moment so working with mostly a blank slate. Work is getting rid of old equipment, so I've got the basics. I have 2 desktops now (aside from my main personal laptop), both older Dells, Optiplex 390 & 7010 pretty much blank slate. I also picked up 4x 1TB HDDs, and 5x 500GB SSDs. They were all free so I just grabbed as much as I could. I've upgraded the drives in my 390, on the 7010 done nothing other than download Windows 10 for now. I'm not exactly computer illiterate, but this is a layer of complexity deeper than I am accustomed to and I am definitely out of my element.

Ok so what do now?

What OS should I use?

What Software should I get for actually storing, managing, and accessing this stuff?

What should I do with the SSDs?

Think my starting idea on all this is stuff like saving Wikipedia, iFixit, handbooks, cookbooks, maps, guides, etc. Then starting to save media, songs, books, movies/tv, whatever. First thoughts are to use one desktop for work stuff and less permanent storage, then the 390 for larger storage and more of a classic 'home computer' type like when I was younger. Not in any hurry to get all this accomplished right away, but looking for the next steps I should be taking and what direction I should be going. Any and all advice is welcome!

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

You have to figure out how many SATA ports and drive bays each system has. A lot of Optiplex systems only have room for just 1 or 2 drives, sometimes just 1x2.5" and 1x3.5" with no room for two 3.5" drives which isn't exactly good for hoarding.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

You’ve got the computer, so downloading is probably next.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Consider getting a good external multibay enclosure. A DAS. Directly Attached Storage. If you share it on your local network you have a form of NAS. Network Attached Storage. You can access the contents of the DAS/NAS from any device in the network. TV, tablet, phone or other computers.

It is possible to pool all the drives to create a larger filesystem. But before you do that, especially before you consider RAID, fix the backup problem. HDDs can and will fail at any time. You can (and will) delete files by mistake. You protect against this by having more than one copy of everything. The harder to replace and the more valuable, the more copies you should have.

RAID means Redundant Array of Inexpensive Drives. It is a way to pool drives so that if one drive fail, the contents of the remaining drives in the pool still can be used to reconstruct what was on the missing drive. I don't use RAID. RAID is great for businesses that need to stay online 24/7. They still need backups. I think the most common reason for data loss is user error. You simply delete something when you thought you were doing something else. RAID provides no protection against that. Backups do.

Consider using only very large HDDs. The largest you can afford. Use old smaller drives for extra backups or get rid of them. That way you don't need as many drive bays, use less power and makes less noise. Multibay enclosures are great because they reduce the clutter of cables.

If you have two 20TB drives in an external enclosure, you can use one drive for storage and the other for backups of the first. Later, when the first DAS is full, get two DAS. One for storage and one for backups of the first.

Look up 3-2-1 backups.

You might consider buying a second hand small, low power, office PC and use it as a headless (without monitor, keyboard and mouse) server, connected to the DAS.

I only use Linux.