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[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Wow, looks awesome!

This was always my dream for org-roam-ui, but sadly life got in the way of me making it a reality. Very happy to see it could inspire someone to do a proper job of it,good luck!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Looks freaking awesome!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Hey, guys! A little over a year ago I started working on a mobile app to sync notes from org-roam with my phone, so far this is what I've got. The main motivation is to take notes not only in emacs but also on mobile devices. Also, I would like to share my notes with colleagues and friends without the crooked synchronization via markdown

This is an early beta version of the app, however I would like to open access to test offline functionality, active testers will also get access to synchronization in the future.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Pretty cool! Currently I'm using Orgzly (well.. Orgzly revived since development stopped https://github.com/orgzly-revived/orgzly-android-revived )

Web might be enough for me but do you plan on making an Android version?

Right now I use git to track all of my org documents but syncing and capturing from my phone is a pain. I need git because I run actions to update calendar services when things change. Would love something that I could seamlessly integrate with capture that also is a useful note viewer.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

This could be awesome

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

This looks amazing! I've been wishing for something like that for a while.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Is there any chance I can use it on an iphone?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Right now you can install PWA for ios, it works almost like a native app.

An ios developer account costs about 100$ per year. If we raise this amount on patreon, I will publish the app in app store as well

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Looks promising. Спасибо!

Can you tell me if there are plans for the mobile client to work without a backend? That is, just specify a folder where my org-roam files are located and work with them. I already have such a folder and I access it with Emacs running in Termux (we are talking about Android). The folder is synchronized using Syncthing. Accordingly, I don't have any special need for a backend or extensions to synchronize with it.... Only

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I use Syncthing and Organice, which works nicely together. I think I just gave Organice access to a single folder in Android.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

from what I've heard this would be difficult. But do you consider creating an ios app long-term?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Do you have plans to upload the app to F-droid?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Awesome; thank you.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Yeah! Really good work! This is a step in the right direction for moving people away from propietary note apps like notion.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Any prospect of an iOS app?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Right now you can install [PWA](https://github.com/Artawower/orgnote/wiki/orgnote-install#pwa-1) for ios, it works almost like a native app.

An iOS developer account costs about 100$ per year. If we raise this amount on Patreon, I will publish the app in the app store as well

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What's your plan for synchronization issues? I mean, lots of guys, it's going to use primarily a desktop environment and I guess mainly using the phone to have a browser kind of functionalities as primary features. Okay, active test server will get access to synchronize in the future. I saw your information about what's your plan here? Are you going to use a syncthing or your own version of server?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I am currently working on my own note synchronization server (I need it because I plan to try to integrate CRDT in the future).

I would also like to mention that currently notes are not encrypted on the client side. However, I also plan to implement this in the future.

I do not plan to integrate third-party synchronization mechanisms, but I will be working on an API that allows for custom extensions. With this API, developers will be able to create their own note synchronization mechanisms

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

IMHO the best way would be using git, which is literally made to resolve this kind of conflicts and it's very battle tested. I've always had issues syncing notes until I switched to git.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

As far as I know, git can't be used for real-time synchronization and simultaneous collaborative editing. But I'll give it some thought

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

is simultaneous collaborative editing a real need though? I'd say org notes are usually edited by a single person, often from multiple devices, unless you are trying to create a Google Docs competitor, I don't think that's a feature that is actually needed.

git also has the advantage of complete history and easy rollbacks.

I've given up using Orgzly because the syncing is atrocious, it has restored deleted notes multiple times. I'm now using Organice with gitlab backend and it works very well.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I need to think about it. The server functionality is also needed to share notes, although it may be possible to combine it with git storage as well

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

For what it's worth, I collaborate with 1 other person, and for me it'd be sufficient if you simply alerted the user that someone else is currently editing the notes, locking them until the other user is done. What's a much bigger problem is if someone edits the notes offline tries to sync them later!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I do collaborate on org notes with a partner! I agree with you that true simultaneous editing is unnecessary, but it'd be nice if the app flagged that someone else is currently editing the notes and locked them until the other person is done.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

This is amazing!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Hey! This looks very promising! A quick question if you don't mind me asking:

Is the pwa version meant to be self hosted or to be locally run similarly to or-roam-ui?

I if can self host it on a server and sync/edit notes this would be a dream come true for me :)

Thanks!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Hi!, you don't need to run it locally, just create a bookmark from the site as described here https://github.com/Artawower/orgnote/wiki/orgnote-install, or download it from release page if you have android phone You can deploy your own backend, but I think right now some env values are hardcoded and you might run into a problem, besides there is no manual on how to do it. Also, I need to provide the functionality to choose a server from the client side.. Right now you are forced to recompile app for a new server with new API_URL and AUTH_URL env variables

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It would be great to make it work without a backend, syncing files through the gitlab api, like Organice does

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I don't plan to implement this, however, in future versions, I will provide a client-side API that will allow developers to write their own sync provider

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Great work mate. Keep it up. I tinkered with native iOS app for a bit and abandoned few years back. Will try this one.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

oh i love this so much, will be watching this project

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Another questions about plans :-) :

Do you have plans to add:

  1. ? org.gpg files encryption/decryption on mobile device
  2. ? markdown syntax support for non-Emacs guys
[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You are thinking of applying for the EmacsConf conference because this masterpiece is something that was long expected. +9999 in Emacs-Fu God of God 99/10

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Thank you for your review, it's my pleasure.

I think not, for a number of reasons

I'm not very confident in my English, so I need to prepare...and that will take a lot of time, I don't have it now.

This app is still very, very far from what I see it as, maybe when I'm halfway done I'll consider it, cause it could be interesting to invite other developers to write plugins..

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

In 4th image, Is it a mindmap or just an image?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

So you have build this feature yourself , is there any instructions I could follow to build it myself someday?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Do you mean graph construction? Or how to create something like that from scratch in your application?

In the first case, just create notes with links to other notes, for example like this [[id:][link-name]], the graph will be built automatically.

In the second case, have a look at https://github.com/vasturiano/force-graph.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

just wanted to say that if this stays alive i will 100% be moving from obsidian to this. org based mobile notes with backlinks and folders is everything i've ever wanted and more

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Congratulation! It looks awesome! I'm the author of Metanote. You've implemented the feature that I wanted to do but haven't completed yet. If there's an opportunity, I hope we can discuss and collaborate.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Hey! No problem! if you have any questions or suggestions, contact me via email [email protected] or directly via discord

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Do you need to be using org-roam to use this? Looks very promising but my system is all based around just regular org.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Org roam is just an approach to have links between notes, you are free to use OrgNote without such links. Currently there is only one limitation, you need to have an id property for each note you want to synchronize.

This is a temporary limitation, I plan to generate an id for any org file the user intends to synchronize (if that file doesn't already have an id).