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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/1874605

A 17-year-old from Nebraska and her mother are facing criminal charges including performing an illegal abortion and concealing a dead body after police obtained the pair’s private chat history from Facebook, court documents published by Motherboard show.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago

America fuck yeahhh 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🦅🦅🦅🦅

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

the pair’s private chat history

There is no such thing as a private chat on a platform you do not own. And even if you DO own the platform it is only as private as the participants decide it to be. Hopefully people start to realize this before complete non-privacy becomes the accepted norm.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago

There is no way for these companies to say no to law enforcement. That is why you should stay away from corporate social media.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Not that facebook doesn't suck and we definitely shouldn't federate with Threads. But here's another article on this. Very late abortion where the fetus was probably viable. 17 year old was like, "I can't wait to get this thing out of me. I can finally where jeans." swallowed some pills to abort. Burned and buried the body on a farm. and the mom and daughter told the police about the facebook messages.

https://www.npr.org/2022/08/10/1116716749/a-nebraska-woman-is-charged-with-helping-her-daughter-have-an-abortion

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (4 children)

One thing I hate is while I dont trsut metas encryotion, it isnt even a default which at this point in American history is just irresonabile and reckless. It sucks we can't teach about open source in schools.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Damn these seem like trustworthy people who we should definitely federate with.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (14 children)

Wait what the heck is an illegal abortion? You mean getting one from unlicensed practioners? Some do it time to time to save money or don't know any better.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (12 children)

In Nebraska or most other red states, could be having an abortion at all. Did you miss SCOTUS overturning Roe v Wade using, I kid you not, quotes from the 1600s in their reasoning?

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

This will be referring to recently introduced laws essentially banning all/any abortion to be carried out (in some states even in extreme cases like rape/incest, or to save the life of the mother), but outside of that an illegal abortion might be due to it being done later in the pregancy than is legal, or without following required processes e.g. requirements to get scans first, alert the father, or have a consultation (most of which are often just traumatising anti-choice measures). Also as you say, using an unlicensed practitioner or unsafe method, yeah. Which aside from money, is sometimes due to fears of repercussion from their community or partner about either the pregancy or getting an abortion, so they seek back-door options or try to do it themselves without proper care.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

Well this bodes well for Threads.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (6 children)

So either FB isn't actually E2E, or their implementation is Twitter-grade broken.

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