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We are not sustainable And neither is any other device maker. This industry is full of "feel good" messaging, but generates 50 million metric tons of e-waste each year. We believe the best way to reduce environmental impact is to create products that last longer, meaning fewer new ones need to be made. Instead of operating on feels, we operate on data and actions. With funding from Intel, we commissioned Fraunhofer IZM to do a detailed life cycle analysis (LCA) on Framework Laptop 13 to help us understand where we are today and where we can continue to improve. Check out our thoughts on reducing environmental impact and download the LCA report here...

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[–] MrMobius 7 points 1 year ago

The number one problem of modern appliance is indeed longevity I'd say. The so called "planned obsolescence" is probably what mainly drives or consumption of electronics and, accordingly, our production of e-waste. But Framework might just be saying that for green washing purposes.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Are components replacable, repairable and upgradable because that is a pretty major thing in extending the lifetime of a device

[–] jayandp 5 points 1 year ago

The entire laptop is user serviceable, including replacing the Motherboard/CPU with a newer model, or even switching between Intel and AMD now. New 16in model will have upgradable discrete GPU.

https://frame.work/marketplace

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (17 children)

My only concern is that they might turn into the next Unfairphone. But for now, I'll remain cautiously optimistic about them.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I have toyed with the thought of framework laptops a few times. But the pricing is just too high. I rather buy used company laptops ~3 years afterwards and get way cheaper high quality laptop. Plus, buying used is pretty much always better than buying new in an environmental sense.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

They don't have the specs that I want, so... Not for me.

[–] MartinXYZ 2 points 1 year ago

I've never used one of their computers or even seen one in the flesh, but from what I've seen they look cool and I will consider them next time I need a new laptop. But for now I'll reduce e-waste by using my old Acer Chromebook with Linux until it kicks the bucket.

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