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On Arch Linux I've migrated away from Flatpaks, so I only use AUR and official repos.
Oh boy my updates speed increased like 3 to 5 times. Flatpak is slow as fuck.
Also my ISP is slow as fuck.
No. (Or maybe yes. See Edit)
Ultimately, you are the one that decided to install things outside of your distro's package manager. If you don't like what happens as a result... then don't do that.
You are completely able to use the built-in package manager to achieve what we had "a few years ago". If you want something that isn't available in the package manager you can do what we did "a few years ago" and install it separately yourself (from source, flatpaks, snaps, appimage). Or you could become a package maintainer for that package and get it added as a package for your distro. It's completely up to you and in no way different frmo what it was a few years ago.
Edit: after finding out from @[email protected] that Fedora does in fact officially support Flatpak, I do indeed think that they could do better in how they support that.
you could use topgrade to update, and it will generally update with every package manager available.
Well, that's Fedora, my friend. On Gentoo it's still the same.
Yeah, as a NixOS user I was like "what?"
On Mint everything updates automatically for me, Flatpaks and all.
Check out Nix, which goes in the opposite direction. There isn't really a distinction between the system and applications.
This is one of the reasons i don't use flatpaks, snaps etc. I get everything either from the official repos or from the aur. Except balena etcher as it is the only thing i was unable to install via my aur helper and i couldn't be bothered to look into why as balena is not that important to me.
It is the ONLY package that isn't updated with my update command as i installed it via appimage
This is why I really like KDE Plasma's discover. It's got integrations with apt, snap, Flatpack, and rpm, and that's only the ones I've tried so far.
I don't really use discover itself to manage my packages, cause for some reason I prefer to do it with the cli tools, but it is a great update notifier.
Except it doesn't always work. I've seen it stuck and loading updates forever a few times, while a simple flatpak update command did the job with zero issues.
I use fedora as well and I just update through the GUI. It's more stable that way and waiting until I turn off my computer for them to apply is not a big deal.
100% agree with you OP.
No need to overcomplicate things, just write a small shell script or even just an alias. I use this daily:
alias get-rekt="sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade -y && sudo apt autoremove -y && flatpak update -y && flatpak remove --unused --delete-data -y"
adjust accordingly for Fedora and/or snaps. Obviously doesn't work for appimages or manually compiled stuff which should be a last resort if there's no other sensible way to install stuff.
edit: voyager shat the bed with the code block but you get the point
flatpaks are all updated at once, just like distro packages, so yeah you might need to commands, but that's still very different to having each application update itself (and the security hell implied by that)
Also I think pkcon can manage your updates across various backends (unless you are on Arch, where I think there are both technical & ideological objections to having a simple tool that just works)