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β€˜You can't meditate your way or exfoliate your way out of this crisis’

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Self-care is important, though. Without caring about and for myself, I would never have left shitty employers behind. Now, of course, self-care is something pushed by those who want us to suck it up and live with shitty policies.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 years ago

Now, of course, self-care is something pushed by those who want us to suck it up and live with shitty policies.

And that's the point the article makes, tbh.

It's not that self-care is "bad". It's that the whole concept of self-care is mindfulness tangental, and practicing mindfulness means grasping the wider situation. Being told constantly to "deal with it" and self-caring through it is accepting abuse. There are ways to practice self-care and refuse to stand for this shit.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago

Yep. Self care, but you need to sit in traffic, come to the office, do the work of two people on a project that has unrealistic deadlines, for pay that lets you enjoy absolutely nothing in the free time you do have. And absolutely no self-care on company time.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago

Self-care is crucial, but I don't think she means literally to 'forget' it. It just makes for a punchier headline.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 years ago

It always bothers me that professionals and experts have to call down to us at the bottom and make suggestions to us as to how to handle or deal with the world's problems.

The attention should be more focused on those that wield power and influence in the world we live in.

We can't do much down at the bottom because we are too busy trying to survive. Those at the top have all the power and influence to make our lives more liveable or more difficult.

It's not about self care ... it's also not about learning to feel better about our world ... it's about seeing and understanding that there is just a small group of people that are manipulating our world into the insecure space we've all contributed to.

It's like the parable of the blind men and the elephant https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blind_men_and_an_elephant

We keep talking about the bits and pieces of the problem ... it's this, it's that, it's over here, it's over there ... but we are never able to step back to see the whole picture of what we are experiencing.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Hard to make a headline out of that probably πŸ˜…

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

The main problem I see is the 'collective' part, or rather how to achieve it.
Many people want similar things but feel powerless and rightfully so.
If we could create some sort of protocol or platform that enables positive communication it might go a long way.

There was the idea posted at r/abetterworld which I think is a great basis for this, if it could be created.

This type of system would allow many people to coalesce their views and wants, then plan steps needs to achieve those goals.
Without something like this, that brings people together through common views I don't know how to get what OP wants. Divisive sites bring people together in one place but don't units ideas, the consensus engine could change the world. If it existed in a free and open way.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

No shit. No amount of self care is gonna help reverse global climate change or make things more affordable, though maybe some types of self care can help you achieve a better future for yourself like therapy for some people.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

I'm reading "Democracy may not exist but we'll miss it when it's gone" from her, and it's a very good book, I think.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Does anyone have a link to the lecture?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The Massey Lectures for 2023 haven't happened yet. Here is a short interview with Nahlah Ayed about the upcoming lecture ...

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

Thanks for the pointer. I think I found it using that context.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

Its my understanding that the CBC Ideas podcast will have the lectures eventually posted there:

https://www.cbc.ca/listen/live-radio/1-23-ideas