I have software dating back to 2003 that I need to support. X11 isn't going anywhere.
this post was submitted on 01 Sep 2023
118 points (84.3% liked)
Linux
48375 readers
1082 users here now
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Linux is a family of open source Unix-like operating systems based on the Linux kernel, an operating system kernel first released on September 17, 1991 by Linus Torvalds. Linux is typically packaged in a Linux distribution (or distro for short).
Distributions include the Linux kernel and supporting system software and libraries, many of which are provided by the GNU Project. Many Linux distributions use the word "Linux" in their name, but the Free Software Foundation uses the name GNU/Linux to emphasize the importance of GNU software, causing some controversy.
Rules
- Posts must be relevant to operating systems running the Linux kernel. GNU/Linux or otherwise.
- No misinformation
- No NSFW content
- No hate speech, bigotry, etc
Related Communities
Community icon by Alpár-Etele Méder, licensed under CC BY 3.0
founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
Yea, I'm currently using Wayland because Manjaro comes with it but like 90% of the programs I use launch with xwayland anyway. I'm not a developer but can't they just give it proper support for all programs? Like run those programs like they do on X11. Seems pointless if nothing works on it.
Not to mention my laptop with Nvidia graphics, that is just so broken on Wayland I ended up switching it to X11 and I'm very lazy.
Most programs you use (provided they are FOSS) probably already support Wayland, they just don't do it by default. The following list of environment variables can go a long way in making your system largely Wayland-native.
GDK_BACKEND=wayland
QT_QPA_PLATFORM=wayland
MOZ_ENABLE_WAYLAND=1
#SDL_VIDEODRIVER=wayland # this one is dangerous if you play games
load more comments
(13 replies)
load more comments
(2 replies)
I couldn't get OBS working. X11 works for it, so I keep using it. Hopefully eventually, I won't need to, but I don't have the time to spend hours researching and troubleshooting. I tried, failed, but x11 Just Works TM. I'm part of the problem, I guess.
load more comments
(2 replies)
I don't see the problem, I also don't see how this is a novel situation.
The technical merits of system level protocols only really affect the user insofar as they make it easier for userspace application writers to make their software. This is why we have the distinction, so that users never have to change the underlying software, and when they choose to it's because everything just works.
There a synergy/barrier replacement working on Wayland yet?
No?
Then I guess Wayland isn't ready yet.
Client machine is a Windows box, and I can't change that, unfortunately.
load more comments
(5 replies)
clickbait title
I keep trying it but for me its not ready yet. Finally, in 2023 I can actually boot into it, but I get random freezes for up to a few minutes at a time. So it's closer, but not stable yet. Hoping that Plasma 6 will be good to go.
The big reason why I'm still on Xorg and will be for a while is XFCE. I've tried everything from KDE Neon to Sway but they are either missing features I want or were too buggy to bother. Should try Budgie again when 11 comes out though, that seems to be close to XFCE in terms of scope and is supposed to work well with Wayland by then.
The only reason I use Wayland is because I have two monitor with different refresh rate. In X, the monitor with the highest refresh is capped to the lowest one and I never figured out how to fix it. In Wayland it just work. Hoverwise I will still be on X.
I won't switch to Wayland until the compositor is separated so that when GNOME Shell crashes (as it does a few times a month), I can restart it without losing all my running apps.