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[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

It's pretty telling that, as a European, I've literally not heard of any of those European alternatives.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 14 minutes ago

Some of these aren't European so I wouldn't feel too bad. PixelFed is American, for example.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

That doesn't mean that they are subfunctional though.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

It tells more about you. Deezer, Soundcloud, DeepL and Bolt are pretty popular globally.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Last time I checked ecosia gets it's search queries from Bing, just a heads up. Other than that I'd say it's really solid.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 minutes ago

There is Mojeek that is based in UK and have an own search index and web crawler. I wouldn't recommend it. Mojeek.com

Just wait for this https://blog.ecosia.org/eusp/

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

Qwant and Swisscows are in the same basket too.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Peertube has this fediverse problem. You google it, go to the webpage and instead of getting a list of promoted videos, you get an explanation of what it is and a manual on how to actually join, starting with „select a pot“. You then get to search the list of pots that all have like 10 viewers and 5gb upload limit. I stopped at this point.

That being said, i really would like an European youtube alternative, but not off the „provide your own hardware“ kind.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 12 hours ago

Exactly my problem why I'm not really getting into Lemmy either, same with mastodon. The whole decentralization standing in the middle of it all is just annoying.

Also yeah, Peertube did not even look like a competitor at all. Same with Threema with it costing 6 euros to use

[–] [email protected] 3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Joinpeertube.org doesn’t have the best onboarding, but take a look at the pinned post at [email protected] for a few good servers to choose from.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 36 minutes ago* (last edited 34 minutes ago)

Thank you

Edit: this is much more helpful than the website

[–] [email protected] 11 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

This is missing Spotify and TomTom unless I am missing something

[–] [email protected] 7 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Thanks for the feedback. It is not supposed to be a complete list. It's a start. You can find more alternatives in our database: https://buy-european.net/

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

One more request then! If appreciate it is your not put text everywhere without additional information. For example the AI filler on the browser page is just noise. Is rather only have the list than contract filters:

""" There are several compelling reasons to opt for European web browsers. These browsers not only prioritize user privacy and data protection but also foster innovation and support local technology ecosystems. """

Thanks for the project by the way!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

Thanks for the feedback! We decided to go for it as we want to make sure that the database is not specifically designed for tech-savvy people. We want to give basic information to make the move to different solutions accessible and easy to understand for everyone.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 14 hours ago

Organic Maps ftw.

[–] [email protected] 74 points 1 day ago (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 day ago

especially Organic Maps, it's got the most user-friendly UI out of the three

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 15 hours ago

Isn't mapy.cz just an OSM wrapper, but proprietary?

[–] [email protected] 35 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Where's Signal (or molly if you need foss)? Signal is an non-profit organisation, so I'd say it can hardly be branded 'from' anywhere unless you're talking about servers location but then...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Signal is centralised, and as such the location of the service operator matters a lot.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Calling Peertube a Youtube alternative is just wrong. It is an alternative in theory but it probably doesn't even have a milionth of the content that Youtube has.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago (6 children)

That's the problem with "the winner takes it all" on the Internet. Which European alternative would you suggest instead?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There is no real YouTube alternative, unfortunately. The content makes a video platform great. No alternative video platform is anywhere close to YouTube in content diversity.

It's unfortunately a very different situation to most other things. For example you can "simply" convince your circle of friends to use Threema. Try convincing your favorite Youtubers to post on any alternative platform and see how far you get.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

I'd suggest adding waze on there and tomtom amigo as an alternative Also infomaniak as an email alternative You're missing Google Drive -> Filen or Infomaniak

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

Thanks for the feedback! Definitely something for the next iteration of the infographic but I will make sure to add it to the database asap.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

waze was acquired by Google in 2013

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

That is the point of placing it in the "needs to be replaced" part?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 hours ago

oh, right. My bad!

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Missing out the big one here - Spotify is also European fyi.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 29 minutes ago

Why don't we include nestle then?

Just because it is European, doesn't mean the company is worth a shit dripping down a wall.

Spotify is a shit company. Pays artists by far the lowest in the industry (especially if you take into account their scummy minimums, catches, and terms for smaller musicians), injects shitty AI songs into Spotify-made playlists so they won't have to pay the artists the little they do, gives "donations" to fascists, and heavily invests in fucking war companies including partnering one who is essentially trying to make "the dark night" tracking machine to pair with AI assassination drones.

(Also side note, have you noticed all of these scummy surveillance companies making their names into very well-known references to pop culture so that all news stories on them are essentially lost to the pop culture void when searching for them? Palantir, helsing, etc...)

[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

I told OP this in previous post; Spotify gave money to Trumps' inauguration. That's why it was removed.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

Shameless plug for Navidrome

Want your music, always available. No ads, no enshitification. Maximum quality, always reliable?

There is only one clear winner for me.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 21 hours ago

As a musician, I don't like SoundCloud. The free upload limit is way too small, their compression is not great and every time you do anything they try to sell you one of their subscriptions, which also cost way too much imo.

If other musicians didn't use it as much I would have already thrown it out long ago.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 day ago (17 children)

Unfortunately, the PeerTube community is inactive and small. There are basically no interesting videos at all.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 13 hours ago

That’s not true. Check out the pinned post at [email protected] for a list of content creators. Also check out the home page of PeerTube.wtf that also has a list of content creators.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Here Wego is the worst maps service I've ever had the displeasure of using. Amazon used to use it for deliveries (maybe they still do), and it took almost a year to get it to recognise that my house was not 8 miles away on a completely different road. It messed up the Amazon routes as the route it picked was all in that same area, except my house, that was 8 miles away.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 minute ago

Google moves my address too. And it's not even a new address, just a "new" building. Apple thinks it's a building site (it was built in 2020!). The only map that recognises the address properly is Here Wego.

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