I might be biased because I can "sudo nano (edit the config file)" to do all the things manually like a nerd but I don't think self-hosting is that kind of impossible. It's not terrible for a layman to do in practice if you use prewrapped things like docker containers and proxmox. I think the average person can do it if spoonfed with the right documentation.
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Yeaaaahhh... You're waaaay overestimating the technical ability of the average person. I'm fairly tech savvy and my eyes glazed over when I tried to figure out how to set up docker for something (I eventually figured it out, but ye).
Yeah I presumed the thing that wrapped everything in neat boxes was easier than the manual way of doing things (ssh and all that visibly scares average people).
I just run most of the junk bare metal and edit the configs manually because I don't care to learn much more than that. Ironically the thing that should make things easier to set up sounds like a real pain in the ass to set up.
I mean, it was still easier than doing it manually, buuuuut... It was still a bit confusing.
Yeah I do feel the same. I'm a person who works in tech but doesn't usually set up servers. Even though it's not my first rodeo it's not exactly easy—it's a project. And I did get stuck on a bug setting up a Lemmy server that I need to peek at again maybe tomorrow or on the weekend.
That said I have some thoughts on this from talking to people. I think I'll make a quick post about it because I think it's a worthwhile discussion.
I don’t know about the average person but certainly enough people yes! But most don’t try unless they have a bit of encouragement and community
I’m actually surprised at how many people will say they think Lemmy is unuseable. I have found that instead of explaining the fediverse they respond better to “it’s Reddit but better because it’s not beholden to any company or country” or something similar
I wasn't a fan of lemmy's UI until I got ahold of the clone of old.reddit version this site hosts.
Beyond that it's just explaining that new button that differentiates between the fediverse "all" and "local" pages on the particular instance whoever made their account on.
So this is a kinda interesting thing. I've had two people in my networks who expressed hesitation because of UX. One was excited to find out that her fav 3rd party apps moved here. The other was excited to find old reddit.
I genuinely think a lot of people feel new Reddit is just enshittification they don't need or want.
I had a few questions though, if you don't mind me picking your brain!
- How does this old Reddit cloning work? Is it something each instance can decide to host, or is it native to Lemmy?
- If it's tied to a specific instance, how do you know that this option exists? Is there a general way to find out specifics like this that I can point people to? It looks like it's listed in this instances sidebar. Is that how it usually works on most instances?
I'll pass the info along to at least one person!