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Shi Zhengli, the virologist at centre of COVID lab-leak theory, reveals coronavirus sequences from Wuhan institute.

Archived version: https://web.archive.org/web/20241208004114/https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-024-03982-2

SpinScore: https://spinscore.io/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nature.com%2Farticles%2Fd41586-024-03982-2

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yea I remember the "China Virus" remarks a certain felon made.

There was a lot of anti-Asian hatred.

My ancestry is Chinese, I'm a US Citizen living in the US.

And the felon is gonna be president again...

πŸ˜–

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

People in US would rather have a felon, rapist, and a geriatric old man as a president than a woman leading the way.

says a lot about the country as a whole.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

MLK Jr's white moderate is far more frustrating than any white supremacist. Give "Letter from Birmingham Jail" a read.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

A lady commiting genocide

[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

So every other instance of β€œwe investigated ourselves and found no wrongdoing” is to be called into question, but we just gonna accept this because?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The latest analysis, which has not been peer reviewed, includes data from the whole genomes of 56 new betacoronaviruses, the broad group to which SARS-CoV-2 belongs, as well as some partial sequences. All the viruses were collected between 2004 and 2021.

Still a developing story, so it's not conclusion i guess.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Even if it was peer reviewed there's no means to ensure the input is meritable. The sample set was determined by governance. The implied conclusions were predetermined.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Part of the point of the peer review process is to check for that. This kind of satay would be very hard to fake well enough to pass the scrutiny of a bunch of skeptical scientists. And if it passes that any scientist will be able to do the same. Being able to force an other scientist to retract a Nature paper would be a high prize for any academic.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Part of the point of the peer review process is to check for that.

LMFAO. It's authoritarian China.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's Nature. One of the most respected science journals on the planet.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

It's China, who's authoritarian governance controls the dataset.

The fucking paper even says so itself in the abstract, lmao.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

It’s too late. The Republicans already have their story, inconvenient facts don’t matter. The people who care about its real origins aren’t the ones making laws.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Republicans? A huge number of Democrats believe this shit too!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

Well they are. Even Fauci started backtracking on the virus having animal origins.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Chinese culture places undue importance on saving face at all costs.

If this was at all true, it would have been put out in February 2020, not in December 2024

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

don't act like you'd not have said the same shit then, as you do now.

if this was all true, it would have been put out in November 2019, when the first rumors started, not in February 2020

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah true, it would have been November 2019. I picked Feb because it was when things started getting out of control.

I blamed them then and decried how they suppressed evidence and news then, and I decry it now.

Lets also not forget that their "Sinovac" is actually "CanSinovac" as it was only possible for them to produce it at all thanks to Canadian lab work.

[–] theonlytruescotsman 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's weird how anti Chinese racism is just accepted to the point some bigoted censored can just say "Chinese culture XYZ" and expect to be taken seriously.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You might have a point if I had not lived there and married into a chinese family, which is where that statement comes from.

[–] theonlytruescotsman 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

That's cute, which of the several thousand recognized Chinese cultures did you marry into?

There isn't a single unified one, anymore than theres a white culture or Indian culture.

Let's put it a different way, I hear it's just a part of black culture to show bravado at all times. Now if you correctly recognize that as a racist statement, you can recognize the your precious nonsense as the racist shit it is.

And marrying someone of a race doesn't make you automatically not racist towards that race, you 'i have a black friend' excusing ass.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Why are we still doing this?

[–] eletes 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Because Donald Trump is about to start slinging shit from the highest office in the land again

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Was he ever interested in facts?

Facts do not matter to bullies, just tell him he is fat when you get the chance and go on.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

I mean, this is the time to investigate the standards of containment practices in viral research labs and start pointing fingers if they need to be pointed.

NOT when it was time to try to discredit the idea of vaccines.

[–] theonlytruescotsman 1 points 2 weeks ago

Because libs agree with Trump that China bad, so it's important to fight that still, especially as Trump gives them the excuse to rapidly and ridiculously increase their racist policies.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 weeks ago

... anymore ...