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High costs cited as the main reason for piracy acceptance

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Piracy is an act of robbery or criminal violence by ship or boat-borne attackers upon another ship or a coastal area, typically with the goal of stealing cargo and other valuable goods.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piracy

What nearly half of Young Norwegians are fine with is not piracy. It is unlicensed consumption of copyrighted media. There is a difference, and we should stop blurring the lines.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

Exactly. Young Norwegians are okay with raiding, not pirating. When you go a-viking, you expect battle and riches, but not from within your homeland but on distant, foreign shores. Sometimes the best loot is to be found in the Christian temples in England, and doubtless it's them that these youths are okay with stealing from. I know I (as an American with some Norwegian ancestry) am.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I don’t know, ship-borne attackers that plunder and steal… sounds very Norwegian really. Maybe they’re just getting back to their roots.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Well. That turned dark quickly.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Surelly as the descendants of the Vikings it's not completelly senseless to think they might be fine with boarding ships on the high seas to take their stuff and with a little plundering of ill-defended costal villages!???

[–] [email protected] 47 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

The billionaires don't support me, why should I support the billionaires. (I don't even do piracy myself, I'm just an ideological supporter)

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago

I value your support, thank you!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Insert Gabe Newell quote here

[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 days ago

I've been pirating movies and series on and off for a long time. The most recent revival was a few years back thanks to Paw Patrols availability in the country I live in. It is not on Netflix there, only on a national TV station and their app is terrible, so couldn't give that to my kid without causing frustration.

We travelled for holidays and I wasn't aware that Netflix had differences between the countries in what they offered to stream. Well, there Netflix had Paw Patrol. Try explaining to a 4-year old why now they can watch a series but back home it is gone.

So back home I started reading up on Jellyfin, and just pirated the whole series for my kid a few weeks down the line. Obviously no need from my end to stop there, its just so much easier than trying to jump around streaming services.

Contrast that with my recent revival of PC gaming (thanks Steam Deck!). I could easily go for pirating there too but thanks to Steam and GOG, I don't bother. So yeah media industry. Its your own fault people do this.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

I don't reflect upon my own piracy very much. But I guess I do engage in it a bit.

Gone are my days of cracked copies of NX and Autodesk stuff. But I still do actively acquire game roms. All for systems that have had their stores shut down, or I've modded to not need physical media anymore.

I guess I justify it to myself that getting secondhand copies of physical games doesn't help the creators anyways, and I would never buy re-releases because I don't buy new consoles.

I have downloaded shows from the streaming services I have. I view it pretty similar to the days of VHS, recording broadcast television. I hate it when there's a show on a service you love, and suddenly it's gone. Westworld on Max. My daughter's Blue's Clues disappearing from Paramount. I'm protecting for those scenarios.

The only one I sometimes feel a bit bad about is my extensive use of ad blockers and sponsor block on YouTube. I consume soooo much YouTube. And I watch too many creators to support them all on Patreon. But YouTube is basically unwatchable without an ad blocker. That pang of guilt is not even measurable on the scale when weighing whether or not to block ads.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If the people pirating weren't going to buy the product in the first place, are they even hurting anyone?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

If you pirate media, a lot of bands, execs and movie stars will have to use business class, trains or busses instead of traveling in their own private plane, like some sort of working class peasant. Could you live with that though?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

A lot of well-known musicians are actually not that well off. While Taytay has a private jet, there's a very long tail. The increased access to recording, discovery, and playback tools was not accompanied by an equal increase in money spent on pop culture. It's also not necessarily accompanied by increased fairness in the way money is being split up -- despite digital downloads/streams being being much cheaper than CD logistics.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago

Yeah like no shit Sherlock...

I am neither Norwegian nor young, but can only agree with the premise. We have been paying for Netflix for many years, Netflix seemed to be back in the day a company that understood what was needed to be done against piracy. A couple of years ago we thought of adding Disney+ to our subscriptions as it is great for the kids. I'll pay happily if the service and content is worth it, but I can't justify adding also HBO, Hulu, Amazon, Apple+... Guess what happens if I can't watch a show because it's not available where I live (happens too often) or it's in yet another subscription walled platform? And that would be for content I dont even own and can watch whenever, it just might disappear... I also have what I consider a rather large collection of DVDs and BRs, at least I own those but I hate using them (too much unskippable stuff, warnings (threats) against pirating, annoying to use as I need to switch discs for changing content...), and that's just not a good way of discovering new content, its only for those I really like and want to have and rewatch.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago

I've returned to piracy as well. Setup a plex server, filled it with MP3s and videos and it's great. No fucking subscription. No ads. Nobody except me can delist anything. If I want something to be there, it will be there and not on some competing streaming service. And when you take into account that Spotify will pay Rednex 0,00286€ when you stream Cotton Eye Joe, you're also not really hurting the artists.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Nearly half of young Norwegians ...

C'mon young Norwegians! You can do better than that!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Seems reasonable. As prices rise, more people will see it as a bad deal.