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[–] [email protected] 25 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (7 children)

I'm not even sure how you get to 4000 years old from biblical literalisim.

Edit: going strictly by the biblical account, Adam lived to 930 years, and Noah 950. IIRC, their lives did not overlap. Jesus lived 2000 years ago. A whole bunch of stuff happens in between Noah and Jesus. So even if you're working strictly from the bible, how the hell do you get 4000 years?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 hours ago

The original calculation (adding up all the ages in the genealogies in the Bible) was done a few hundred years ago, but all the young earth creationists I saw put the start at 4000 A.D., so 6000 years ago.

[–] blockheadjt 10 points 7 hours ago

Because anti-evolutionists decided a myth that the Earth is only 4000 years old is the quickest way to refute claims of evolution.

It's not an argument one forms by observing evidence.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 hours ago

There is a very old Jewish Holiday which celebrates new year on a calendar starting with the creation of the Universe, only about 5000+ years, but even that is obscure af.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 hours ago

I had a dude come up to me at the reference desk and tell me that the earth can’t be billions (he said trillions, lol) of years old because erosion from the Mississippi River would make it wider and deeper than it is. I pulled up some info including the idea that the Mississippi was something that came about more recently because of plate shifting, etc and he just said, "Nah."

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 hours ago

The correct answer would have been: "Why should I? You're an idiot."

[–] [email protected] 75 points 10 hours ago (10 children)

Real question: Is the decay of uranium the only natural way to produce lead? If so TIL.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Iron is the heaviest element capable of being created inside stars, via fusion. Once iron is fused, the star begins to rapidly collapse.

Elements heavier than iron (28) are the result of supernova explosions, which produce energies high enough to create these heavier atoms. It is further possible, as described in the image, for very heavy elements to decay into lighter more stable elements, those still being heavier than iron.

Lead is 82.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

That's what I learned in school, but there's been some research since suggesting stars produces significant quantities of elements up to lead during their lifetimes, even though it's a net energy loss.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-process

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 10 hours ago

No. Nucleosynthesis of lead within stars generated from supernovae make up the bulk of the existing lead on Earth. Uranium decay does provide some additional lead inventory but would be fairly small in comparison.

But the presence of it in the first place within second generation stars proves that lead is billions of years old.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago

Oh yeah, well were you there 4.5 billion years ago to see this so-called uranium 238?!?

Check mate, science!

[–] humblebun -4 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

Scientism is yet another religion

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago

is this even a real conversation? its just circles and rectangles

[–] [email protected] 35 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Lol, look at this guy, trying to use science and facts to disprove my fairytale. What a joke!

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 hours ago

Lead 204 is entirely primordial and the other isotopes found on earth would be found at roughly the same concentration were all of the lead on earth primordial. It's the excess ratios of the other isotopes of lead that can be attributed to radioactive decay. That is a substantial proportion of the lead on earth, but to say the "existence of lead" is proof of the age of the earth is entirely incorrect.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isotopes_of_lead

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

There’s bread from 14,000 years ago

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 hours ago

Look I don't like them either, but you can't refer to crusty bishops that way

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