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Some people just don’t live in reality and don’t know how the world works. They can’t seem to understand the world isn’t as perfect as they are.

Votes dont count for people you don't vote for, that's a stupid claim and every claimant who says this secretly knows this. That's why much effort is put in explaining why something so stupid is actually the truth, "cuz of how fptp works"

But it's not. It's not how voting works, you know, we know, an' no amount of "buttrumpin" makes it so. Don't effin @me with long-winded explanations bluewarriors, i have been hearin every excuse the Dems can make for tripping over their own failures for 30 ish voting years. Some, (like screaming at the green party for being spoilers (Nader lol) are literally older than some voters itt.

Don't carry water for Dems, my blue-team pit-fighters, your energy would be better served spent convincing D party membership to fix their platform to be one more popular.

It's easy to refute the claim. If you've followed discussion threads here for the past 3 months, we've done so countless times. But since you're desperate for another one, here we go.

First, third party voters have and always will exist. If your campaign strategy is to ridicule them, then you deserve to lose. Do a better job of convincing them that your candidate is good, so that they'll vote for your candidate, or go get those tens of millions of voters who are sitting at home or working their jobs, and get them to cast their ballot.

Second, most voters do not live in swing states. If you are a strong minority in your own state, and you know it, then it does not matter what you do on Election Day because it wasn't going to affect the results of the election. If someone comes along and tells you that it does, they are lying, and they ought to know better.

Third, if the only thing that could possibly affect the results of the election are these small groups of potential third-party voters, then it's convenient to blame them if you don't get what you want, but that ignores reality. Some people might not vote for Harris because of her stance on Palestine. If only there was something that could be done about that. If only she could change her stance on Palestine. Oh wait! She could change her stance tomorrow. If she really needed those votes, and those were the only things that could possibly change, she could get on TV tomorrow and tell us her new plan. But she didn't do that. Why? Because it doesn't come down to this one single group of voters.

But even if it did come down to this one single group of voters, then it would be on her to make a new policy, right? But she didn't do that. So now you're calling her a fool, because she's pushing this losing campaign strategy when there's a clear solution, which means you are hoping she doesn't get elected because you're insulting her now just a few days before the election. How dare you undercut her and her campaign staff.

Finally, I think single issue voting is a bad idea, but if I were going to be a single issue voter, the one issue that is going to be at or near the top of the list is genocide. If a US voter has a cousin or sister or uncle living or dead in Palestine today, how do you convince them to vote for Harris? Of course it's true that Trump would probably be just as bad or worse, but you're asking for them to vote for someone who definitely played a role in maintaining the status quo, which is likely to or has already led to the death of a family member that they know and love. I think for people in this situation, of which the numbers are not very large but definitely non-zero, you just can't do anything about it. They're not going to vote for Harris because they would correctly perceive it as letting down their beloved family member.