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[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I want to see the Netherlands and US numbers

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Although, these stats are people who would consider giving up cars, among those who currently own one.

People who don't need a car and already don't have one won't appear in these figures

If you imagine the perfect fictional country, then for that country the bar chart should theoretically be at 0% - because that would mean everyone who doesn't need a car doesn't have one, and anyone who does own a car needs it very strictly for jobs only a car can do, no matter how good the transport infrastructure and planning and zoning are.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

source

NL

• definitely yes: 3 %
• probably yes: 15 %

USA

• definitely yes: 11 %
• probably yes: 17 %

[–] girsaysdoom 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'm actually surprised by both country's stats.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Me too, but it's the percentage of those who currently own a car. I guess, in NL the percentage of people who own a car is less than e.g. in Germany.
I'm also surprised that the share in the US is quite high.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Where Germany 🇩🇪? Where my 2% non-car-brains?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

The data is from this (the link is in the source) survey.

Germany:

• definitely yes: 14 %
• probably yes: 17 %

[–] akilou 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

Seems like they just asked people "Would you be willing to give up owning a car for good?" and then people got to respond with:

  • Yes, definitely
  • Yes, probably
  • No, probably not
  • No, definitely not

It's described in the report on pages 19, 20 and 150.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

France? That’s surprising.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Not really. It’s a relatively large, relatively rural country.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

By European standards maybe. But not compared to many countries across the world. I’m shocked the US, Canada, and Australia are not higher for example but there are others as well.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Amazing that they use PROBABLY as a defining factor..

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

The main thing is that transport is used, if its there, so its no surprise that people who don't want to drive have to, because the infrastructure isn't there. Compounding that people need transport that will take them everywhere, so most people drive.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

What's up with the blank column space in the middle?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

The five on the left are where cars are most dispensable, and the five on the right are where cars are least dispensable.