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Microsoft has confirmed that Windows 11 users will not be able to uninstall the controversial “Recall” feature, despite earlier reports suggesting otherwise. Recall, part of the Copilot+ suite announced in May, automatically captures screenshots of user activity on the operating system including sensitive information such as passwords or financial data https://digitalmarketreports.com/news/25091/microsoft-recall-feature-on-windows-11-not-removable-after-all/ Do yourself a favor and get rid of Windows from your life—enough of these greedy companies. #privacy #security

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

@[email protected] I found this part to be illuminating:

"Earlier reports by Deskmodder indicated that the latest Windows 11 update (24H2) might allow users to uninstall Recall entirely. However, Microsoft clarified to The Verge that this uninstall option was a bug."

You see, it's a feature, not a bug. But this feature turns Windows into a bug. So...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

@[email protected] @[email protected]

Do you all get the feeling that the uninstall options was there for Devs?

And someone forgot to remove it from their project till it shipped?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

@[email protected] who cares, ms-windows is the past...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

@[email protected] ist das nicht ein enormes Sicherheitsrisiko? Kann man nicht an die Screenshots kommen?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

@[email protected] How do you remove this crap?

Working anywhere they use Windows you have no choice.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

@[email protected] the AI features will continue until they generate something of value!

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

@[email protected] Recall is the reason why I let Windows down two months ago, a move I'm happy with.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

@[email protected] Still open for recommendation for an affordable gaming-linux laptop (17+" size) (Must not be Linux pre-installed).

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

@[email protected] cool, so the whole EU has to switch to Linux / MacOS now?

Cause i am sure as hell, that this is not compliant with the GDPR

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (3 children)

@[email protected] I would if I wasn't gamer. All my other systems run Ubuntu, but for games, especially older ones or online with anticheat, Windows is still required because I don't have time or nerves to fuck around to make games just work. Which is unfortunate because I like Ubuntu's GNOME so much more than stupid Windows 11 today.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

@[email protected] As always, switch to Linux

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

@[email protected] This is bindmoggling!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

@[email protected] literally why??? Casual users usually don't even know how to access the optional features menu. Just seems like pointless bad PR

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

I smell a lawsuit! Maybe more perhaps....

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

@[email protected] I agree, but maybe it's not easy to avoid MS Windows for many users. OS X only (officially) runs on Apple hardware. Linux is pretty easy to install these days, but has an even worse support structure for many users, and plenty of its own downsides.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (6 children)

This feature is a wet dream for three letter agencies or bad actors. It can’t get better than this. What next turns off TLS? I don’t know a single security researcher who will recommend this feature.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (3 children)

@[email protected] At least it’s offline (for now)

It’s not like this feature is on an OS that’s full of holes or anything :troll:

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

@[email protected] How could anyone recommend this OS to orgs that work with sensitive data?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

@[email protected] More than a wet dream for any spy agency. We will call it SpyOS instead of windows. Confirm my choice to switch to Linux even more.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

@[email protected] I am deeply concerned about progressive creators on YT who may be using Windows 11 and may not be 'tech-savvy' enough to be aware of the major privacy issues and alternative operating systems. They've been faced with relentless censorship and attacks from big tech, governments, and bad actors already.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

@[email protected] I'll never install Windows 11.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

@[email protected] 2024/2025 will be known as “The Great Defenestration” in the computing world

#Windows #Windows11 #Microsoft #Recall #Copilot

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

@[email protected] obviously nobody with relevant insight is in control at the windows division of microsoft

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

@[email protected]
Very well said!
Go to Linux now!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

@[email protected] Welp, time to make myself do the full swap to Ubuntu. Just gotta make sure Citrix works.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

@[email protected] yeah this is horrible anti-privacy stuff and I am about ready to finally ditch Windows.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

@[email protected]

This is the best Windows feature yet. My parents agreed to try out Linux for the first time because of it. Thank you Microsoft <3

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (5 children)

@[email protected] If I remember correctly, they did the same thing (unable to uninstall) with Win10/Cortana, but you could disable it in the registry. Wonder if something similar could be done with Recall.

In any case, Recall is an absolute shit show both security and privacy wise.

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@[email protected] Windows just keeps getting ever worse because nobody screams - "Stop. This is bad". I dumped Windows back when XP was still around. There has been no version of Windows that hasn't been bad in some way or another. I went from XP to OSX to Linux. I've used Linux exclusively for most of the past 10 years.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

@[email protected] Good thing im on windows 10😂

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

@[email protected] Any more reasons needed for switching to Linux or *BSD?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

@[email protected] Windows 11 and the shenanigans with windows 10 made me install mint.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

@[email protected] users will just install yet another debloat script that works and looks like crap and continue support Microsoft with their money not even thinking about moving to other OSes and showing MSFT their opinion in the only logical way

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

@[email protected] I guess I'll wait for a "custom" version of 11 to hit the torrents.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

@[email protected] Pop-OS for the win! Woo!

#pop_os #linux #gnome #win #windows11 #recall

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

@[email protected]

You know what I can uninstall on my machine? Everything.

#linuxmasterrace

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

@[email protected]
remove windows
install Linux
recall removed
😉🙃

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

@[email protected] is this some features tied to Copilot+ and its hardware limitations (crazy performant NPU), or is it always-on and if you have the hardware capabilities, Copliot+ will make use of it. The solution for the former is simple, do not buy any PC compatible with Copilot+, if it is the latter, going for another OS is the only sane option.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

@[email protected]

That is "making profit". By any mean.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

@[email protected] They are going to use it to train new GenAI models.

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@[email protected] Just keep in mind that you will also be part of other persons Recall if you communicate (Email, IM, Videoconference…) with persons using Windows 11 with Recall activated.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

@[email protected] Definitely. I have always believed Microsoft and Windows as an op system were complete and utter crap. Never had a prove it was otherwise! Till now. 😂

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

@[email protected] .....this basically signs a death sentence for Windows in government or health environments. This...there's no way this is going to stand - the same three-letters are going to lean hard on MS to get it off.

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