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Why is this so hard for people?
One thing I want people to leave behind when they unplug from reddit is the clickbait titles:
"Look what my sister just did!"
"Was it really so simple?"
"I should have seen it coming [wholesome]"
Surprise titles are the worst. They really make me feel that the author is just using the tool as his toy. There will be thousands of people like you, what do you think will happen when all the titles will look like yours?
@McBinary What you're describing is one of the issues with the entire fediverse and it is the on boarding process.
A centralized social network just makes you go to Facebook (dot) com, then put your mail and password. Done!
But the fediverse isn't easier. People not only need to learn their username and password, also need to learn their server's name. Why? Because isn't the same to try to log in in lemmy.xyz than log in on lemmy.zyx
That makes non technical users get lost.
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I was unsure of which instance to go with, but I got on Kbin as soon as I saw that it had Oauth. (just don't want to deal with it)
That's a GOOD thing. As soon as you dumb it down you get the dumb people coming in.
Back in my day we had to walk uphill both ways to sign up for BBS forums. Kids these days.
If the super-easy signup process is a barrier to entry for someone, is that person really worth having here? This may sound crazy, but I want barriers to entry.
Anyone recall how much better the internet was when it cost a few thousand bucks, and a bit of technical know-how, to even get online? It was no utopia, but it also wasn't everyone's Aunt Betty, who can't operate a toaster, on her iPhone screaming "5G gives you covid DO YOUR RESEARCH!!!1"
After finding the voting system better than Slashdot's, I was on Reddit for 14 years; I fell in love with it at the start, and slowly fell out of love each time they dumbed the site down, in order to lower the barrier to entry. It went from a forum for a community of nerds, to a Facebook meme image board, and each step was a painful reminder of Eternal September in action.
The Fediverse still has that old feeling of community, and I don't want Eternal September to happen here (and it is happening, but not to a terrible extent, yet). I wish signing up really was confusing. Nothing good will come from adding training wheels for Aunt Betty.
I don't remember it ever costing a few grand but I loved it back before the web when it was essentially just college students and only the nerdy ones actually used it beyond email.
I gotta be honest, I'm a tech person myself and I was also slightly confused when I checked out Lemmy for the first time. There were three major things I had to grasp before I felt like I understood the whole concept:
It kind of makes me want to learn coding, so I can participate and make Lemmy better and better, lol.
It is just plain comfortness. Sometimes people can be completely helpless if you switch an option or an app around, even though it is just by one position or even just change the design a bit. So is it with /kbin. It completely looks like and works like Reddit, yet it is different.
I don't blame anyone for getting frustrated. The whole concept of the fediverse is quite confusing to someone that knew nothinf about it prior, and I myself am only just starting to get a grasp on things. The whole experience reminds me of the first time i heard about bitcoin and trying to wrap head around the blockchain.
I (and i assume many others) have been unhappy with reddit's direction for some time now, and forcedully ending the life of my third party app of choice (RIF) just happened to be the straw that broke the camels back.
To many of us this is the last straw, but to many others who may be newer users, or may have already been using the official Reddit app this probably does not seem like a huge deal.
Only time will tell if the folks leaving were generating the lions share of the worthwhile content, or if we are just the vocal minority and life will go on. Some folks aren't looking for a new home, and even if these events are what lead to Reddit's eventual demise it will take years for said demise to play out.
I keep clicking links on one fediverse and somehow I become on a different instance and thus logged out, kbin seems promising but no mobile app, Jerboa is glitchy and very WIP. It is hard to grasp. The first time I tried using it I just ended up on different instances and couldn't log in again, not realising that I was somehow brought to a different instance instead of viewing the post in my instance
Most people are really dumb when it comes to technology.
Yeah I wonβt lie Iβmβ¦ very confused but Iβm kinda just rolling with it and hoping I figure it out along the way. I canβt speak for others but I find myself generally comfortable with computers and willing to try things out and see what I can do. Some people are afraid to do that and idk how to change it
Anyone got a good tutorial to share for folks who want to jump?
Lol yep, my wife uses reddit and when I started explaining it she just stopped listening. I'm like and case and point.
Though it took a bit of reading to figure it out for myself, I had the desire to do so. Whereas those who don't really care will continue to browse reddit or whatever imo.
Hopefully it becomes easier to get setup and more elegant solutions are found.