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Tennessee family's lawsuit says video long kept from them shows police force, not drugs, killed son (apnews.com)

submitted 2 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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A mother whose son was having a seizure in his Tennessee apartment said in a federal lawsuit that police and paramedics subjected the 23-year-old to “inhumane acts of violence” instead of treating him, then covered up their use of deadly force.

The death of Austin Hunter Turner was one of more than 1,000 nationally that an investigation led by The Associated Press identified as happening after police officers used physical force or weapons that were supposed to stop, but not kill, people.

The lawsuit, filed this week in federal court, came after AP reporters shared police body-camera video they had unearthed with Turner’s parents, who didn’t know it existed. That footage made the family doubt the official conclusion that a drug overdose killed their son.

Citing the AP’s reporting and many of the details it disclosed, the lawsuit focused on how officers’ own video contradicted the police version of what happened inside Turner’s small apartment in the northeastern Tennessee city of Bristol.

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[–] [email protected] 70 points 2 months ago (3 children)

My late godson was epileptic. Many years ago, he was working at a local theater selling candy and popcorn. He was the only one behind the counter and the manager was selling tickets up front. A woman walked up to the manager and complained that his worker, my godson, was on drugs or something and she wanted to buy popcorn. He was having a seizure but the clueless woman decided he must be on drugs. But she was just some clueless Karen.

Now, I tell that story to demonstrate that most people don't understand seizure disorders. I could understand, maybe (big maybe) if the cops didn't understand. But how could the paramedics be so clueless? They were called for a medical issue. The mother, at the scene, told them he was having a seizure. Why were the cops there at all?

[–] [email protected] 42 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I have heard of people experiencing the disordered cognition after a stroke being labelled as 'drunk and disorderly', and being detained without medical intervention. Sometimes their lack of ability to follow orders leads to them being assaulted by criminals, sorry, the 'reasonable use of force' by a 'police officer'.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Same happens with diabetic people with low blood sugar. In fact, a case like that led to the Graham ruling where a guy was having an insulin reaction so he went into a store to buy orange juice. He saw that the line was too long so he left the store and went back to his friend's car. A nearby officer thought he seemed a bit off and decided to investigate. Obviously a diabetic with low blood sugar is going to have some problems answering questions and following orders so he was handcuffed and roughed up. That led the Supreme Court to rule on reasonable use of force. Now courts would look at whether a reasonable officer would make a similar decision to use force. The previous test was whether the use of force was malicious which was an even worse test. Unfortunately despite the new test, the court did not find for Graham.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

A friend who was a union hvac worker and diabetic got fired and blackballed for being "on drugs" at work once...he had low blood sugar that day.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Hypoglycemia is no joke, shit sets in fast. Bright eyed and wide awake one moment, slurred speach and struggling the next.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 months ago

Why were the cops there at all?

Cops, in the US at least, are the "catch all" emergency service. There's more of them and they are in smaller, faster vehicles than the fire department or EMS.

Police get dispatched to a lot of things first to "assess the situation" because they can arrive faster, and it shows that something is being done because someone has shown up, even though it may take twice as long before an ambulance gets there.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago

Honestly I blame tv for giving people the wrong idea when it comes to seizures. Everyone has this image of a person failing widely and dangerously but that really isn't how most seizures play out. I can understand not recognizing one if you've never seen it before but once you've seen one there's no excuse. The medics on this scene should have known what was happening, no excuse there. They should have their certifications revoked.

[–] [email protected] 61 points 2 months ago

ACAB.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It struck her that officers appeared to ignore they had been dispatched to a medical call. By the end, instead of rushing Turner away in an ambulance, police and paramedics spent six minutes recounting the violence.

"Gee boys, sure am glad we got this bad guy, he could've hurt those ladies in there with all this thrashing around! Don't you hate when women yell annoying things like "don't hurt him!" and "he's having a seizure!"? They just don't* understand what sickos like him could do to them."

[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 months ago

People wonder why I always say "Fuck All Cops," this is why. They don't serve their communities, or protect the innocence. They pointlessly kill citizens and protects the rich. They abuse students in all grades and walks of life. They are an outdated evil entity that needs to be reformed. Until that is done, FUCK ALL COPS!

[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 months ago (1 children)

We clearly need body cam videos to be managed by an independent agency.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Streamed off site and inaccessible to LEO.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago

Yup. I don’t even care if it ends up being Amazon that houses it all. Fuck it. We NEED this to stop these demented fucks

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Hopefully they don't raid it like they did that newspaper not too long back.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 months ago

1 illegal immigrant commits 1 crime

CLOSE ALL BORDERS DEPORT EVERYONE KEEP THEM OUT OF OUR COUNTRY

27th video this month of cops using unnecessarily excessive force which ends in death of innocent person and they did everything they coudl to cover it up

wElL iT's JuSt OnE bAd ApPlE

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago

Never call the police. They are not there to help. Nothing good will happen.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Title is so hard to comprehend without proper punctuation.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Tennessee city of Bristol

Eff. I lived in Bristol when I was a little kid. It's an absolutely beautiful part of the country. My older brother's best friend still lives there. This makes me sad.