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I don't know if you've noticed this, but threads or comments about Lemmy or the Fediverse get downvoted a lot on Reddit and trolls who claim that it's "dogshit" and "not going anywhere" get systematically upvoted.

Some of those trolls get then exposed when you ask them what Lemmy instance they tried and one of them with whom I had a surreal exchange answered with something like "yeah ofc I used Lemmy, this is the instance: join-lemmy.org" πŸ€¦β€β™‚οΈ

It's frustrating that these trolls keep contributing to the big lie that "Lemmy is not ready yet" and that there's "no viable alternative to Reddit".

This and the overwhelming number of comments being "against the mod protests" just prompts me to question whether there isn't some brigading being organized straight from the Reddit HQ.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

One of these guys asked me to think about reddits revenue… very strange

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

They adopt the same bizarre rhetoric: "Reddit is bleeding money", "3rd party apps are circumventing Reddit's ads and losing them money" etc...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Dunno if you were around then, but people on Digg acted the same way toward Reddit before Digg crashed.

If we stay on this platform and continue to grow and create content, then when Reddit again does something to annoy its years (they probably will), we can be here to take advantage.

The downside is that every great growth in users will affect the platform/site culture, not always for the better. It depends on the users and the size of the migration.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Well, to be fair, I do think that people have a point when they say Lemmy isn't ready or yet on scale of reddit to be equal competition. Lemmy doesn't have a userbase as large, even throughout all instances, and it also probably wouldn't be able to sustain if everyone left reddit and came here, which means less content.

But who cares? I certainly don't want all redditors to leave and come here. I do think reddit itself is probably sabotaging discussions of alternatives but there are plenty of real users who would say the exact same things. Corporate actions aside, reddit also sucked because of its users and the culture created there. Not all users add value. If those trolls, Right-wingers, and shills all came here, then it would replicate the garbage. There are some aspects of reddit I'll miss, or may sometimes dip into in the future for a transaction, like a Criterion film marketplace, but I'm otherwise happier here. If those things from reddit that I miss or want are eventually replicated on Lemmy then I'll never in any form go back to reddit. If redditors are happy with their shitposts and bot-populated or meme-speak comments on reddit but think Lemmy is the dogshit, then all the better.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

@AlmightySnoo "Bots brigading against Lemmy"

FTFY

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I went to have a look back in United Kingdom sub and seemed even more right wing and.thw think-tank bots paid posts than normal.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Reddit is a very right leaning platform. Don't mention on there though else they'll bite your head off. Everyone else has gradually left the platform over the years.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I just deleted all my posts, comments and my account on Reddit. No need to get frustrated over people who wants to be a part of that shit show. Also you can't be sure that they are real people and not paid trolls to discourage people. At this point anything is possible with Reddit.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Id say its bots but knowing the nowadays redditors they are actually that retarded.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Trolls will troll. I for one am not going to hold my breath for people to switch over. I do feel that you have to be at least a little bit dedicated and willing to give up some convenient features of a platform that has been heavily developed for 10 plus years to make the switch. That is going to cause some vitriol, there is just no way around it. I'm not even mad at it to be honest.

At the end of the day, all I wanted was to have a place to talk to strangers on the internet without seeing ads in good faith. And thanks to Lemmy we have that. I personally don't care if Lemmy "wins" or whatever. People have to choose to participate. And they are! But millions aren't going to make the switch all at once.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

If they want to gate-keep themselves then fine by me.

I legit joined this instance yesterday because I'm not going to trust the claims of randos (who are now very easy to see as frauds) and although I agree that Lemmy needs some work, it's responsive and reasonably usable. I'm impressed at how well it's handling the massive Reddit migration.

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