Important-Bet123 at 2024-03-13 16:47:07+00:00 ID: kupwftz

It is not abnormal to want healthy kids. The scans at week 12 and 20 also show heart malformations, birth defects, other chromosomal abnormalities. And yes, many if not most Danes abort fetuses with serious diseases. Humans live a better life when they dont have to have 3 hearts surgeries in their first year of life , or a have liver transplant at age 4 and if you are a parent you will have a better life if you child doesn’t die at age 3, 8 or 18. The less suffering, the better for everyone ❤️

Down syndrome is the most aborted because it is the most common birth defect - but it is the same for all diseases, there are also less kids in Denmark with microcéphaly and other life threatening illnesses than 10 years ago due to prenatal analyses.

I see no problem at all using modern technology to have healthy children. We are not talking picking the gender or eye color of your child, which is for the record NOT legal in fertility treatments in Denmark as it is in the U.S.

Actually I view this as equal to IVF. Do we use technology to have an unnatural result? Yes. Is that a good thing, absolutely.

SignificanceNo3580 at 2024-03-13 17:04:00+00:00 ID: kuptwmm

You seem to have misunderstood a few things.

The scan is optional, but recommended and free. They don’t just scan for downs, but also severe disabilities and diseases. The goal isn’t necessarily abortion. It’s important to know any potential risks going through pregnancy and at birth in case you need more monitoring to keep both mother and child safe.

They don’t recommend abortion if your kid does have downs, they are neutral and simply inform you of your options. I personally wouldn’t and without me telling them, they made it abundantly clear to me that the goal of the downs test was to keep me informed so I could make my own decisions and not be blindsided. It’s especially important since giving birth to a baby with downs is considered high risk and it’s therefore not recommended to choose home birth if you’re expecting a child with downs.

I didn’t get a folder about abortion, but I did get one (before I was tested and deemed very low risk) about the beautiful sides of a life with downs. Many people do choose abortion. But people also have a lot of respect for parents that don’t. In general the abortion-debate is very respectful.

There’s a lot of reasons why someone would choose abortion. The health of the mother and child seems like they would be some of the easiest reasons to agree upon.

MITOX-3 at 2024-03-13 19:32:00+00:00 ID: kuqjhy0

Ban den her person denmark tbh.

Vi har rigeligt med amerikansk moralske flosker. Det eneste person her vil er at sprede sin egen gylde.

FinnTheDrox at 2024-03-13 18:50:06+00:00 ID: kuq9932

where i live i often see people with down syndrome just walking around.

and i have some family members who work with people who are hard disabled. and i have never really heard of denmark doing this. Hell there are places all over that are housing just for people with down syndrome so they have some sort of guardian around.

Crazy_Recover_9649 at 2024-03-13 17:11:47+00:00 ID: kurpsi2

Have you ever actually KNOWN someone with Downs syndrome? First of all, it's not a "yay, happy" existence. No existence is. People with Downs syndrome are prone to a lot of health defects and illnesses. Second, if you get a child with Downs syndrome, you are committed to taking care of them till you die. It's not like having a normal kid where they grow independent and move out. This is like taking care of a 6 year old forever. It's a huge commitment that WILL restrict your life MASSIVELY. No more vacations. No more "let's do something different today". No more silence or relaxation. Having a child with Downs syndrome means you have a tight schedule for the rest of your life. Most people don't want that.

I understand that you are pro choice, but please don't act like you understand how much work it is to have a child with Downs syndrome.

csrster at 2024-03-14 01:20:50+00:00 ID: kusmzp0

It’s certainly not eugenics because people with Down’s are usually infertile. It is a chromosomal abnormality. It is not inherited.

BobsLakehouse at 2024-03-13 15:52:38+00:00 ID: kusnupv

I think it is a good thing. Being a parent for someone with Downs syndrome is a life time commitment, in a way being a parent for a regular person is not. I think it should be the choice of the would be parents, but I find it wrong to shame those who choose to abort, and I don't think choosing not to abort is admirable or noble either, but it is their choice and I will not say to them that it is wrong not to abort.

I also think you conflate things when you say that we eradicate downs syndrome children, no, we abort fetusses. A fetus is not a child or a person.

nejtilsvampe at 2024-03-13 15:52:38+00:00 ID: kuss2bu

Having Downs family members is for life, it's not just raising a child. They will never be independent. Family members with mental disorders of this magnitude in general is hard and exhausting and I couldn't wish it on anybody to be frank.

As for the population aspect of it. Seems like a positive outcome tbh.

I know people with learning disabilities that I envy for how much joy they experience over little things. But make no mistake, it's not all roses.