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"Hello, my girlfriend (both 30 years old) and I are thinking about moving to Denmark, as we've seen it mentioned everywhere as a country with many opportunities and a demand for professional skills. I'd like to mention that we are Italians, where over 40 years, salaries have dropped by almost 10%, and with the current lifestyle, it's not enough to live normally. We pay rent, groceries, bills, gasoline, and we almost run out of money. We would like to start a family sooner or later, something that isn't possible in Italy. So, for a guy (me) with 7 years of experience on lathes, grinding machines, and lapping machines, who has worked for Ferrari and Bosch, and holds a diploma as a Full Stack Web Developer, could there be a future? And what about my girlfriend, who has a 3-year bachelor’s degree in economy and finance and works as an accountant?

PS: I’m studying Dutch just because I love foreign languages. I can speak English and French too (B2).


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[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Fillifax at 2024-02-14 09:48:38+00:00 ID: kqd5hus


I work in IT and in my experience, English is the company language in most companies in the field. We are around 250 employees comprising 27 different nationalities. None of my bosses even speak Danish. Other industries are less multinational, of course, but I have definitely experienced various jobs in various sectors where English would be completely sufficient. Dutch will get you nowhere though.

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Marlling at 2024-02-14 10:01:55+00:00 ID: kqd6inu


Well, I can't tell you too much, but I can at least say that my recent work place is really needing grinders/millers/welders for offshore wind turbine foundations.

good pay, lots of English speaking people and job security as far as I believe.

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Buttface1991 at 2024-02-14 09:13:54+00:00 ID: kqd2ur0


Regarding job situation, you should be fine

You just really need to quickly adjust to the culture. Danish people is a very time-strict people, who prefers to go to work early and leave early.

The culture is very different to the South Europe culture :)

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Kriss3d at 2024-02-14 09:15:21+00:00 ID: kqd2yqt


Oh absolutely. You earn pretty well in those fields.

Youll do fine here. You can get by with english just fine but learning danish would help you alot. Especially if you have kids since it will be alot easier if they are used to hearing it at home.

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Silver_Vat at 2024-02-14 09:16:23+00:00 ID: kqd31ig


Danish not Dutch.

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Winkelbottum at 2024-02-14 09:25:42+00:00 ID: kqd3r7n


I know a lot of Italians who already love and work here. Maybe ask in Facebook groups for Italians in Denmark and hear their opinion?

Also... you will do better learning danish... not Dutch.

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clean_squad at 2024-02-14 09:54:01+00:00 ID: kqd5wuy


Contradicting to what other people say, I would be careful about moving here. Your machinist skills will likely require fluent Danish. And you don’t mention any work experience as web dev. It will not be easy finding a job, and you will likely only be employable as a delivery/cleaning staff. For you wife it depends if we can find a job in an international company where English is the main language.

I completely understand you wanting to find a better life but Denmark is one of the most difficult places to integrate. With the experience of it people with experience.

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Cold-Mind-3059 at 2024-02-14 10:20:45+00:00 ID: kqd7zmk


Italiens are okay. We all speak english. Just along that you are not muslims.

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larholm at 2024-02-14 13:54:15+00:00 ID: kqduc8b


Indholdet er fjernet. Fra vores regler:

Det er ikke tilladt at true, forhåne eller nedværdige folk baseret på deres race, hudfarve, nationalitet, etnicitet, tro, seksuelle orientering eller køn.


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Lykke_Stardust at 2024-02-14 12:46:24+00:00 ID: kqdload


Yeah I think it could be a possibility that you guys could look into. You can start applying for jobs in Denmark. If you haven’t been I would recommend going for a vacation here. Often an idea of a country can be a bit rose colored, and even though vacations tend to show all the best and not a mundane everyday, it can give you an idea of how it would be

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zemausss at 2024-02-14 12:11:43+00:00 ID: kqdhv2l


I'm sure you could both do fine in the end - if your wife wants to do a masters, i think there are a lot of english ones. If she gets a student job 12hrs+ per week, she will qualify as an EU worker, which gives her the rights to SU, which is a stipendium of 700 € post-tax per month during her studies.

However, if you're looking to move to a place with higher living standards, i can't help but think Switzerland would be much easier in terms of language/cultural/geographical distance. (i think french would very easy to learn for an italian compared to danish)

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Spicy-Zamboni at 2024-02-14 08:16:34+00:00 ID: kqcygjt


You're from another EU country and you both do/can work in so-called "high skill" areas. The biggest hurdle will probably be applying for a job before you move here and of course finding a place to live, but you can do most of that remotely.

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ChunkySalsaMedium at 2024-02-14 08:55:14+00:00 ID: kqd1g0r


Accounting is not considered "high skill".

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BarnabasDK-1 at 2024-02-14 08:54:58+00:00 ID: kqd1f8x


If they are from Italy / EU / Schengen they can move here even without a job on hand. As we in Denmark can also move to Italy.

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e33i00 at 2024-02-14 08:04:21+00:00 ID: kqcxi0e


Can I suggest you look into the medical automation field. It is big here - Your profile sounds perfect for building precision production machines and software at Novo Nordisk. Your girlfriend could look into import/export/shipping.

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Hargara at 2024-02-14 08:15:17+00:00 ID: kqcyd0u


Can't say much about your background, but your girlfriend should start learning Danish as soon as possible if you want to move here. There are jobs available for English speaking people in finance, but the possibilities are much better if she speaks Danish (conversational level should be okay!) as that also opens up for jobs in smaller, less international companies.

My wife is Italian and has been living here for 10+ years, and we regularly meet up with other Italians living here. Most of them seem to want to stay here, but few couples have moved back to Italy after having children, due to distance from family and overall getting support to raise the kids with both working full time.

www.jobindex.dk is one of the biggest job sites in Denmark, so you could try to search there for positions that might fit either of you.

I know a lot of Italians who live in Vejle, as it's not overly expensive and it's close to several large international companies (Siemens Gamesa, Bestseller, Lego)

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Agitated_Hat_7397 at 2024-02-14 10:08:28+00:00 ID: kqd70zj


Not correct the trading sector, are close to only hiring people that can communicate in English.

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Hargara at 2024-02-14 10:10:18+00:00 ID: kqd764j


Finance is a wide field, but OPs girlfriend is working as an accountant - not necessarily something that would be highly sought after in the trading sector.

If it's standard in-company accounting / finance department, many companies are still very much favoring Danish speakers.

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mandelmanden at 2024-02-14 08:03:19+00:00 ID: kqcxf1z


I work in construction and we have a demand for skilled smiths (a.e. people who know how to program lathes, laser cutters and such). There's also a general demand for web developers.

There's always work for accountants.

But you should look in to start learning danish. Especially in the skilled laborer department. It's probably the most important skill to have, coming as a foreigner.

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ZharkoDK at 2024-02-14 11:59:58+00:00 ID: kqdgnxa


The general smith(Klejnsmed) doesn't know how to use CNC machines. It is not part of the education. You learn how to use a manual lathe and a milling machine. A machinist(Industritekniker) knows how to operate CNC machines.

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SignificanceNo3580 at 2024-02-14 08:50:32+00:00 ID: kqd134y


Well. Maybe start out with a vacation instead of believing what other people say. 😅 I love living in Denmark, but an Italian might not. 🤷‍♀️ Denmark has a lot of benefits, especially when it comes to starting a family. Safety, welfare state, foreningsliv, a certain respect for childhood. But the winters are dark, Danish is difficult and Copenhagen is getting pretty expensive to live in - not as expensive as Rome, but still. 😊

I do believe your line of work is in demand, and your wife’s job sound doable too, though most Danes have a masters degree (Kandidat, we have two types of masters). Nyindanmark.dk will have information on the rules.

It’s a good thing you already speak more than one language. Many expats seem to come to Denmark with no idea what goes into learning a second language. Danes speak English quite well, but people tend to think of English-speakers as someone that are only here temporarily, and that’s obviously an issue for both friendships and possibly career opportunities in the long run.

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FullCupInHalf at 2024-02-14 08:11:40+00:00 ID: kqcy30g


Within IT and accounting it should be possible to find work where English is accepted or even preferred. You can make a living on those wages for sure, though be aware that the way of living in Denmark is generally geared towards both parties working and that housing is expensive in Copenhagen, so it also depends on where you see yourselves situated and what your standards of living are. First of all I recommend spending a few weeks in Denmark in November or January to see if you can stomach the weather (it's cold, dark and wet FYI). Good luck and welcome.

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FuryQuaker at 2024-02-14 08:50:37+00:00 ID: kqd13cu


Besides the fact that Dutch isn't spoken here I can say that a bachelor's degree won't get you far. It's almost mandatory to have a masters degree, at least in most university degrees.

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BarnabasDK-1 at 2024-02-14 08:56:08+00:00 ID: kqd1ii7


Practical experience will get you even further.

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LuckyAstronomer4982 at 2024-02-14 07:47:48+00:00 ID: kqcw60g


You are studying the wrong language then. We speak Danish

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FrikadellenFlygter at 2024-02-14 07:53:35+00:00 ID: kqcwmrz


Well Danish and Dutch have some similarities, so it is not a total waste of time, not that language studies ever are a waste of time.

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ApoliteTroll at 2024-02-14 07:58:44+00:00 ID: kqcx1vf


True, but wanting to move to Denmark and needing to learn Danish and then studying Dutch is somewhat detrimental. But learning is never a waste.

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MgrOfOffPlanetOps at 2024-02-14 07:59:31+00:00 ID: kqcx41c


Your skills as a machinist is in demand, but I don't know how an Italian formal training is welcomed.

However, learn Danish and prepare to be lonely for the first many years. Fortunately your have a SO.

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NaniFarRoad at 2024-02-14 08:16:01+00:00 ID: kqcyf24


Start learning Danish - it is a relatively easy language (simple grammar), even if you never get the pronunciation right. 

You will be expected to have completed a course like this, for example:  (there are other schools, but this is an old one - my mum learned to speak Danish through it).

If you decide to move, the council/your new workplace may pay for the courses.

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flodenenderaldrig at 2024-02-14 08:23:26+00:00 ID: kqcyzs7


There is an English -> Danish course on Duolingo. Great place to start.

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New-Restaurant-3613 at 2024-02-14 08:06:15+00:00 ID: kqcxnj0


Sorry to say. But. Lots of people Think of Denmark as a land with opportunities, but inflation has made our Living very expensive. Many danish people prefer to speak danish and are not that open minded to foreigners. I just want you to Think twice.

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Negative_Potato_9250 at 2024-02-14 08:50:25+00:00 ID: kqd12tl


Recently moved to Denmark. Can confirm.

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GeronimoDK at 2024-02-14 08:18:45+00:00 ID: kqcymih


I believe you could easily find a job as either a machinist or a web developer, for your girlfriend though, I'm not sure it would be that easy to find something in her field. Not that she can't find any job, but if she wants to work with her degree she'd probably have to learn Danish first and/or get familiar with danish rules and laws, if she's lucky then maybe she can find something in one of the big multinational companies.

There are short 2-years programmes like "financial controller" that could be relevant for her or maybe she could even do a master, the problem with this plan would again be that she'd either have to get really good at danish or hope to find and get admitted to one of the few programmes in English. If she can work a certain number of hours per month she could be eligible to receive SU (student grants) also.

Either way there's always a demand for unskilled labor like cleaning, dish-washing, greenhouses, factory or warehouse work etc. Unskilled jobs will usually pay upwards of around 18€/hour, extra for working odd hours, this is before taxes though.

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Franreyesalcain at 2024-02-14 08:46:19+00:00 ID: kqd0rmc


You could try to apply for jobs from Italy and see how it goes. I'd advice you to learn danish if you want to live here even if you get a job as a Full stack web developer which is an area where you could survive with english but still.

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