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Ok_Bit_4320 at 2024-02-06 19:03:33+00:00 ID: kp7tq9z
Depending on where she lives there are different places to get support in such situation, e.g. help in contacting the police, information to relatives etc.
In the capital region it is here (they also list places in other regions on their page):
OvalOvaries (OP) at 2024-02-06 19:06:25+00:00 ID: kp7u8im
This is such a great resource! Thank you so much!! I'm sending the link to her right now.
Cunn1ng-Stuntz at 2024-02-06 18:41:15+00:00 ID: kp7ps6o
You can't legally do shit, as a third party in the US. You can leave a one star review.
Your mother however can inform the police, and it's surprising that this is even a question. What kind of place did she visit?
Sounds very weird.
OvalOvaries (OP) at 2024-02-06 18:57:53+00:00 ID: kp7sq3d
In America you can contact the Better Business Bureau to file a complaint against the business and hopefully get their license revoked, which is why I was asking if there was anything similar in Denmark. She visited a massage/fitness center.
Cunn1ng-Stuntz at 2024-02-06 19:05:58+00:00 ID: kp7u5mk
That's why I asked what kind of place. First she should contact the police. Secondly the fitness center (his place of employment).
There is no license required to be a massage therapist, and if he was self employed, it's a bit more difficult.
It's also the reason why I found it weird. As a massage therapist you are pretty exposed to complaints. You are easily replaced and black listed, and if self employed you live off your reputation. Obviously sick people exist.
Edit:
And a massage parlor in Denmark is often times legal prostitution. I have a Spanish friend that went wrong on that one, when he had som back spasms.
OvalOvaries (OP) at 2024-02-06 19:08:48+00:00 ID: kp7unkh
That makes sense. He is unfortunately the owner of the business, which means he has more power in the situation than if he were just an employee. I'm shocked he would risk his reputation like this too.
New_Spell2923 at 2024-02-06 20:13:32+00:00 ID: kp8jczq
Do you know whether the therapist is a part of a company?
doktorzhivagi at 2024-02-06 21:26:01+00:00 ID: kp8lckt
Police - 112
Extension-Cover-1459 at 2024-02-06 22:04:29+00:00 ID: kp8qco8
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Mundane-Studio-8934 at 2024-02-06 21:36:57+00:00 ID: kp8toek
I will say that unless she has proof it is hard to get someone punished for sexual assault because you need evidence, I had a SA case and it didn’t even go to court despite the fact that everyone were sure he did it cause i didn’t have any proof other than my testimony, unless he confesses of course but that’s unlikely. You should definitely still report it but just be aware of this
scubahana at 2024-02-06 21:26:01+00:00 ID: kp903g6
I also recommend she file a complaint with the police. Also, she needs to do it within 72h of the incident if she wants to be eligible for support from Offerrådgivning.
brugernavnikkeledigt at 2024-02-06 18:20:32+00:00 ID: kp7m203
Police. Does your mother speak danish? Or is her native language english? If no to both of Them, and if she feels insecure because of that i'll help her contact the local police.
OvalOvaries (OP) at 2024-02-06 18:33:38+00:00 ID: kp7oez3
You're incredibly kind to offer. Danish is her native language and a friend has offered to help her report it to the police as well.
brugernavnikkeledigt at 2024-02-06 18:35:26+00:00 ID: kp7oqp3
Perfect!! Didn't want someone to let this pass over some language barrier! Happy to hear that she's got someone to support her.
something2speakabout at 2024-02-06 18:15:14+00:00 ID: kp7l3ml
Please report it. Sad of this happens to other people or Young girls
OvalOvaries (OP) at 2024-02-06 18:18:45+00:00 ID: kp7lqce
I completely agree!
mesusa00 at 2024-02-06 18:00:58+00:00 ID: kp7ikiv
The police is shit In denmark. If you are lucky they Will do something about it. They probably wont.
OvalOvaries (OP) at 2024-02-06 18:09:00+00:00 ID: kp7jzxf
It's the same here in America, unfortunately. :/
GlitteringShrimp at 2024-02-06 21:33:44+00:00 ID: kp8krch
I agree that it could and should be A LOT better here in Denmark, but still it is important to report sexual assault - every time! If we stop doing that, then the disgusting creeps have won for good.
Do not worry about any financial problems for your mother. It will not cost her any money, no matter how far the case goes. That’s for sure.
My best advice is to make sure she takes another person with her, when she goes to report it. In my experience officials make more of an effort if there are several people in the room. Same goes with doctors etc.
Also, she should get a confirmation in writing, that she has reported him to police. If she chooses to contact the organization for massage therapist (I forger the name), then she should also send that in writing and ask to get written confirmation that they received her complaint. Documentation is important!
Good luck to you and your mother - and please reach out if you need any more information etc.
abc24611 at 2024-02-06 17:41:03+00:00 ID: kp7ez94
Police.
OvalOvaries (OP) at 2024-02-06 17:44:19+00:00 ID: kp7fkd0
Thank you for your response! If she does go to the police then what would the following legal proceedings look like? She isn't financially well off. Would she have to get a lawyer and go to court?
macnof at 2024-02-06 17:55:26+00:00 ID: kp7hks2
In general, you don't have to get a lawyer or pay anything when you report a crime, no matter if you're the victim or not.
Edit: also, the police will question other customers to get multiple testimonials. If no one else has been molested by him, she might not get justice (word against word situation).
OvalOvaries (OP) at 2024-02-06 18:10:02+00:00 ID: kp7k6ix
That makes sense. Thank you!
StraightComplaint621 at 2024-02-06 17:47:30+00:00 ID: kp7g526
call the local police, go talk with them, she will get a procecuter from the state if she get to court.
OvalOvaries (OP) at 2024-02-06 17:51:15+00:00 ID: kp7gtkl
Thank you! This is what I am advising her to do. She is just concerned that the process could be expensive or that he will become aggressive and retaliate in a dangerous way.
MereOst at 2024-02-06 18:04:04+00:00 ID: kp7j44u
Don’t be concerned about that. The police will guide you through it. I’m pretty sure it will only cost you some time, not money. But really, the police can guide you through it all. Don’t hold back with reporting this!!
OvalOvaries (OP) at 2024-02-06 18:11:01+00:00 ID: kp7kcsf
That's good to know. I'll encourage going to the police and support her along the way in whatever way I can.
wynnduffyisking at 2024-02-06 22:04:46+00:00 ID: kp8qefs
I really fail to see how it could get expensive. She can press charges and if the police and the prosecutors office finds that there is a case that will hold up in court they will indict him. It really does not require anything on her part except providing police with the relevant information and probably testify in court. If it goes to court she can probably also submit a claim for damages against him as part of the criminal proceedings.
romedo at 2024-02-06 22:51:48+00:00 ID: kp8yi3j
This is criminal matter, be aware that civil lawsuits are not as common in Denmark, so suing for damages etc. beyond what might be granted in a criminal case is quite rare.
wynnduffyisking at 2024-02-06 22:58:09+00:00 ID: kp8zknm
Not quite sure what your point is in relation to my comment
romedo at 2024-02-06 23:04:09+00:00 ID: kp90kmq
Naahh it should most likely have nested under the comment above, but good for you to not miss an opportunity to take offense.
wynnduffyisking at 2024-02-06 23:06:41+00:00 ID: kp90zik
Dude I just asked a question
dankdegl at 2024-02-06 20:46:15+00:00 ID: kp8c3j0
She would get a state appointed, as it falls under criminal law, which is sponsored by the state
Fresh_Conclusion8779 at 2024-02-06 18:25:52+00:00 ID: kp7n0ws
So sorry to hear this…… Can I ask you if she was at a place called ‘Massagecenret’ and the therapist starts with the letter ‘T’?
OvalOvaries (OP) at 2024-02-06 18:33:02+00:00 ID: kp7ob48
Thank you. His name begins with K.
Fresh_Conclusion8779 at 2024-02-06 18:36:32+00:00 ID: kp7oxoe
Oh okay. Can you tell me a bit more about the place? Maybe in a private message.
frownfromhere at 2024-02-06 23:35:58+00:00 ID: kp95oek
Shit, I just read their trustpilot reviews.
I have a distant friend who went to a masseurs in cph and he tried to get his hands under her underwear. He said he must've misread the signs when she told him to stop.
She reported him to the police, they said it was a 'he said she said' case so they couldn't go any further with the report. Don't know if it was Txxxxx tho, but that girl who left the review is doing more to keep other girls safe than the police.
MeagoDK at 2024-02-06 23:55:02+00:00 ID: kp98pni
Eh, that is just how we structured our law. The accused has all the rights and are found innocent until proven otherwise. Police honestly can’t do much if no other person reported similar crimes.
JewishBirthday at 2024-02-06 18:00:58+00:00 ID: kp81o3w
Report it to the police. It actually might have a good outcome.
I know someone who was a victim in this case and justice was rightfully served
Snifhvide at 2024-02-06 18:59:32+00:00 ID: kp7t0ku
First thing, she need to call the police. Next: Many Danish therapists are members of a professional organization. If he has a certification from any of these organizations, she can try to contact them and report the assault. It might not be the first time something like this has happened. If they find the accusation credible, they might be able to suspend his certification until the police have completed their investigation.
OvalOvaries (OP) at 2024-02-06 19:00:38+00:00 ID: kp7t7pf
Great advice! Thank you so much!
Pikkuveli at 2024-02-06 22:16:06+00:00 ID: kp8sdqz
I recommend going to the police only. If your mom is unable to later prove the assault, it's not a good idea to involve other, non law enforcement parties. You don't want to risk her being accused of slander.
Snifhvide at 2024-02-06 19:03:24+00:00 ID: kp7tpc9
Yw. I'm sorry that your mother had to experience such a thing.
Clear-Increase4800 at 2024-02-06 19:17:08+00:00 ID: kp7w3x8
What happened to her definitely is illegal in Denmark, but the Danish police doesn’t always handle sexual assault cases very well. There has been a culture of distrust of women who report sexual violence, and even though the police have been trying to improve things, she might still meet an officer with an outdated view of sexual assault victims who might not treat her well. According to Danish law, you have the right to a “bistandsadvokat” - victim’s rights lawyer- if you are a victim of a “serious sexual assault”. I don’t know the exact meaning of the word “serious” in this context, and I am not sure if her assault qualifies, but IF it does, the government pays for the bistandsadvokat who can guide her through the process of reporting and go with her to the police station. She can try calling the local center for sexual assault at the hospital and get a list of recommended lawyers.
Berg-Hansen at 2024-02-06 19:48:24+00:00 ID: kp866ii
Po-lice
haze4330 at 2024-02-06 21:15:20+00:00 ID: kp8hf1e
U/online-politiet try see if they are online and ask what she should do. Btw people here are right, she need to report it asap
Fatuglyfiasco at 2024-02-06 18:59:06+00:00 ID: kp8bhvb
Never report a crime to the police. That would be very Strange /s
Fonziekierkegaard at 2024-02-06 23:01:16+00:00 ID: kp93rw3
She won’t pay a dime, as far as I understand. Prosecutor is public. If she loses, the state covers it. If she wins, he has to pay the costs. The question in my mind is if the police will make an investigation and secondly in the prosecutor will find grounds for a case. The case seems based on your description - and I do not say this to question or discredit your mother - she said, he said.
Aluanne at 2024-02-07 03:47:44+00:00 ID: kpb2s8h
Ew. I'm sorry she had to endure that. She should go to the police and I think complain to Styrelsen for Patientklager ()