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Full conference room for the talk about Solarpunk at the CCC congress in Hamburg.

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I like this flag better:

The solarpunk flag. [Source]

[–] [email protected] 41 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

The talk itself was disappointing though. I get that the theme was optimistic story telling, but why invite a speaker that has little to say about Solarpunk other than some plattitudes? At least they could have mentioned some examples or put up some links on the slides or so.

Really a wasted opportunity 😑

[–] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago

I'm not trying to be disrespectful, but their use of comic sans is fitting for the flag. It all looks very amateurish.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Does everything need a flag?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Does everything need to be on the pride flag is the real question

[–] [email protected] -5 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Not a fan of pride flags that remove colours :(

[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago (2 children)

It hasn’t removed any colours? That’s the standard rainbow flag that’s been around for 50 years now.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I read this as a modified pride flag, similar to how the flag you linked is also a modified pride flag.

[–] girsaysdoom 5 points 10 months ago

I have to agree with you. From my perspective, it comes off that they don't think the Trans/POC portion is important and replace it with their own logo while keeping the rainbow and chevron. They could've easily added their own logo to the right but replacing the other colors is in very bad taste to me.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Pretty rad ngl

[–] [email protected] -5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Rainbows really don't need any extra colors or symbols. The whole point was that they're already covering the whole spectrum. Giving everyone an extra color completely defeats the purpose and singles out all those who aren't having their unique color added to it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)
[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

That's quite over-dramatic, especially in a German context with what the Nazis did to gay people, and completely ignores the point I made.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Then I'm sure you're also familiar with the ransacking of Hirschfeld's Institute for Sexology in 1933, where some of the first treatment plans for trans people were developed. It was a place where gay people and trans people were accepted and treated with respect by medical personnel.

That famous picture of the book burnings? Those were patient records and the research archives of the institute. So no, it did not just start with gay people, and trans people's persecution by nazis was relevant to bring up because it's one of the first kinds of persecution the nazis did. Dismissing that is ahistorical and dismissive of the history of oppression of trans people.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The base flag is always just the rainbow. The other additions are meant to highlight whatever needs highlighting. In LGBTQA+ contexts, you can add the trans and poc and whatnot because those are marginalised groups that deserve some extra visibility.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

They made a choice to use a space typically reserved for POC and trans people.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Reserved by whom? The CEO of gay? The rainbow includes everyone already.