Embrace, Extend, and Exploit: Meta's plan for ActivityPub, Mastodon and the fediverse : fediverse

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (6 children)

the fediverse is so much smaller than Threads

Is that a typo?

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[–] AMillionNames -2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (5 children)

So, the Microsoft method - except that never really killed Linux.

It's really basically number 2 to get you to move to Threads, the exploit part is going to happen on the Threads side, and is basically going to be with ads (which you can block or avoid seeing) or with selling data about the fediverse in one platform (which defederation isn't going to be able to prevent against). But if embrace and extend is your problem, might as well defederate from kbin and mbin ...

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[–] [email protected] -2 points 10 months ago

The ignorance and fear mongering around this topic is astonishing. Look at all the facts. It's pretty clear what's happening here and why it's happening, and it's not EEE. The whole point of federation and decentralization is that it can't be "extinguished". Threads can come and go and it won't matter. The fediverse will still be here. Block it if you want but I'll not be blocking it on my instance. I'll let my users decide for themselves.

[+] bogdugg -16 points 10 months ago (13 children)

I am optimistic about Meta's investment in the Fediverse. If you don't believe the Fediverse can survive the embrace of big tech, I don't think you believe in it at all. You don't want an open web, you just want to be the one in control. The goal of a decentralized internet - in my opinion - is to separate content from service. And if you believe that is the future, then you have to accept that companies are going to build new services that will try to monetize that content. But the beauty of that paradigm is you get to choose the service that works best for you without sacrificing access to the people or media you're interested in. And really, it's not much different from say, Google, being able to monetize Chrome because it can access your website. I mean... yeah, but that's kind of the point?

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[+] [email protected] -21 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (4 children)

Extend ActivityPub, Mastodon, and the fediverse with a very-usable app that provides additional functionality (initially the ability to follow everybody you’re following on Instagram, and to communicate with all Threads users) that isn’t available to the rest of the fediverse

That's already available to Threads users regardless of whether or not they federate.

as well over time providing additional services and introducing incompatibilities and non-standard improvements to the protocol

kk, then defederate from them when that happens.

Exploit ActivityPub, Mastodon, and the fediverse by utilizing them for profit – and also using them selfishly for Meta’s own ends

This is a nonsense sentence that says nothing and makes no actual tangible point.