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[–] [email protected] 22 points 5 months ago (29 children)

Ok so the truck with a stainless steel exterior that actually rusts, that is bullet proof but only against 9mm rounds, this electrically powered thing that is gonna have you survive the apocalypse (where I'm sure the cell networks and electrical power grid will be functional)...

...this things wheel's come off when you hit a... 10 inch high concrete slab at... 30 mph? Less?

I mean, I get thats a bit much to ask from all but a military grade MRAP or L-ATV or something... but isnt that /basically/ what Elon has marketed this thing as? An apocalypse proof vehicle?

If only the guy had crashed it into a decently deep fountain we could see how well its amphibious mode works.

Is that feature still in the 'fever dream' stage of development or do they actually offer it as additional feature?

[–] Patches 8 points 5 months ago (8 children)

To clear up some confusion. "Military Grade" just means the cheapest bid. It's not some magic Indestructible Modifier.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

If you are going to tell me that an MRAP or L-ATV is not built to much, much higher durability, survivability and capability standards than a consumer grade vehicle, you're off your rocker.

Yes. Military Grade 'stuff' is often done by lowest bidders. Whoah, so are nearly all consumer products!

The difference in this case is fundamentally different approaches to design. Hugely different kinds of suspension systems and body design, etc.

No, its obviously not a literal indestructibility modifier.

But it sure goes a long way further toward it in many cases.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Ya,know. You have done the "unthinkable" and actually changed my mind about military grade stuff when you put it that way! This is not sarcasm, I'm for real

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Hooray! I'm glad to have done the unthinkable then, aha.

Yeah, as much as there often is merit to criticizing aspects of many elements of military gear... a lot of those criticisms get overblown and recontextualized to seemingly comparable other kinds of goods or equipment in a way that kind of misses certain crucial aspects.

Maybe an actual good example of 'Military Grade' actually meaning 'crap' would be the kind of gunpowder used in the earlier production of 5.56 rounds for the first generation of M16s in Vietnam.

That is an actual case where going to the lowest bidder for what turned out to be gunpowder that burned too dirty for early M16s, combined with a lot of hype around the M16 being 'self-cleaning' leading to initially no or very few cleaning kits being issued... yeah that led to a whole lot of the guns jamming up.

But this doesnt mean you can just blanket point to all military grade stuff and say its garbage.

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