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[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

"But these things are not enough. It might sound counterintuitive, but the goal of any Green New Deal should not be economic growth but rather the slowing down of the economy. Measures to stop climate change cannot double as ways to further economic growth. Indeed, the less such measures aim to grow the economy, the higher the possibility they’ll work."

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

I keeps amazing me how one could criticise capitalism and still talk exclusively in terms of capitalism.

Not a single word of the accelerating extreme deforestation of the world's forests all over the planet. And this is just an example. The same holds about drilling and plastics, about industrial farming, construction,... I don't care if they are profitable. They're just aggravating the problem and there are alternatives that reduce the problem. These need to be enforced, regardless whether they are profitable (some of them are, but they still don't overtake the problematic ones). We don't have collective enforcement and we need it. Call it green new deal if you want, call it anarcho-communism, whatever. As long as it is just theory and no practice, it's pointless.

Politics and growth are irrelevant if they are so detached from the problem.