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Show me where they are in this thread. They're not here.
That sounds like someone talking to the police.
Lol okay, but this so-called "why should I vote" brigade is STILL not here. Sounds like a strawman to me, because ~~zero~~ 1 (one) users in this thread are saying not to vote.
Update: One user referenced not voting as a strategy to affect change, but then said that now is not the time for such a strategy
I did, sorry. But it has to be done in big enough numbers, which would not be possible right now. So, vote and start organizing for the next elections.
I made that comment before you showed up, though. I think there is an argument to be made not to vote, but I agree that now isn't the time.
Regardless, that's not what this post was about, but conservative and centrist Democrats will literally argue against anything except the points I'm trying to make, because they know that it is accurate to criticize our sitting president of multiple atrocities, including supporting a genocidal regime.
It's appalling that any criticism leveled at an actual sitting president gets summarily dismissed by so many people. Sometimes interacting with such people genuinely makes me feel like not voting, because what even is the point, if we can't so much as pressure our sitting president to do better? It's absurd to me.
I can literally admit that I intend to vote for Biden, but that doesn't matter. These people demand COMPLETE dedication to their ~~sports team~~ party, including holding any party member immune from criticism. Their "lesser of two evils" schtick is wearing thin. I've been around since the 80s, and it's been the same routine my whole life.
Absolutelly agree, I guess thats the power of indoctrination :c
Yes I only replied that so you wouldnt get a "gotcha" reply from someone else.
Your views on these democracies match mine perfectly, I think, and you express them way better than I could ever do so I didnt want to "hurt" your arguments any further.
I don't think you could hurt my arguments because the naysayers in threads like these only come to scream at people made of straw. I can only hope that some of what we say might sink in for some people once they've had time to process it, but anyone who's willing to see other humans as expendable for a campaign's sake are not very likely to be persuaded, in my experience and opinion.
Apparently, they're even reporting me to my mod and instance admin. They really don't want to discuss our nation's complicity in genocide.
I feel that we are of a like mind though, and I appreciate that you're here. It makes me feel at least slightly hopeful for the future