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[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (18 children)

Bro the data wasn't breached, someone just took already available passwords and tried them. It is their fault for using the same password everywhere.

And im not defending the company here, fuck em but thats definitely not on them.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (15 children)

23 and Me are technically correct in that it's customer behaviour that caused the issue. People reused passwords and didn't use MFA.

They can claim the moral high ground if they like and shift the blame, but the truth is that regardless of WHY the breach happened, it was still a breach and it still happened!

As a software engineer, I believe there's a real argument to be made here that 23 and Me were negligent in their approach. Given the personal nature of data stored they should have enforced MFA from the start, but they did not. They made an explicit decision to choose customer convenience above customer security.

The argument that customers should have made better security decisions is evasive bullshit.

As a software engineer you cannot trust customers to take correct decisions about security. And customers should not be expected to either - they are not the experts! It's the job of IT professionals to ensure that data has an appropriate level of protection so that it is safeguarded even against naive user behaviour.

[–] pishadoot 1 points 10 months ago

As a consumer you can't trust companies or software engineers to make correct decisions about security, either. The blade cuts both ways and everyone is at fault here.

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