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I'm not on your instance, so I don't get a ton of say, but I would just recommend that part of the Alt-Right's playbook is getting seen by as many eyes as possible. exploding-heads is trying to find ways to game the federation system and the algorithm to determine "hot" to platform their hate and pipeline people who don't recognize the dog whistles to their side. Whether you mind or don't mind seeing the content or can or cannot block the communities and users from over there is immaterial to exploding-heads's strategy. The point is to get seen that first time.
Further, whether you agree with the above, please consider this: telling vulnerable groups to do their own moderation on an individual level is an inherently privileged stance. Part of the alt-right's strategy is cyber-bullying. I'm going to focus on the cyber-bullying in this section of this discussion, just under the assumption that people disagree with my stance that exploding-heads is trying to promote a particular political agenda. Whether you agree or disagree on that point is immaterial. There is no denying that exploding-heads users engage in a pattern of cyber-bullying against minority groups. The aim in that case is to cause mental harm to those minority groups. If there's a pattern, why not address the root cause? That root cause being that exploding-heads is not moderated or administrated to the standards other instances in the federation expect, or even to the standards laid out in their sidebar rules.
Users of the fediverse join the instances they do with particular understandings of the rules and moderation styles that administrators provide to their users in their sidebar and any documents linked from there before signing up. Here are some selected rules from lemmy.one that exploding-heads users break regularly:
So, please. To the administrators of lemmy.one, consider these points when you make your decision. Let your own users' voices stand out more. But if you're a lemmy.one user, please take all of this into consideration as you make your recommendation
Exploding-heads was here years before any of you or the instances you're on. They were happily sitting there posting and discussing daily about the things that interest them. You might disagree with what they're talking about, but don't act like they're only doing it to spite you.
You redditors came into a space that existed for years before you ever even heard of it, act like you invented it, then act all outraged that there were already people here and their existence is a giant conspiracy theory meant to spite you personally.
You want to defederate from them? Go ahead. That's the right and power of each instance to choose who to associate with. But quit it with the narcissistic conspiracy theories. A lot of people were chased off of big tech before you, they didn't just stop existing -- they ended up somewhere and often that was the fediverse.
narcissistic conspiracy theories? tf you smokin bro?
I just said they're a hate ridden cesspool, no conspiracies, it's just an ugly mess that needs to be contained. No shit they never stopped existing, but they need to be slapped down everywhere they're seen. Let them keep fleeing and being chased away, they deserve no platform.
@empireOfLove @SJ_Zero cope
incredibly detailed and well researched argument from an account with zero lemmy activity except two comments defending exploding heads
nice job gatekeeping. Good to know that the internet never truely changes. You should be happy lemmy is growing into a serious service instead of some halfassed forgotten backwater that will eventually run out of users and die, instead you're just angry that our "corporate posting" is dirtying up your perfect little echo chambers.
I'm here for the long haul. That includes defederating from every hate instance I find, no matter how many those assholes start. Go find something better to do with your life than defend bigots and "ridicule" people for daring to have principles.
@empireOfLove and don't worry we were here before you and we will remain here long after you go :love:
Sure you will, bud, whatever makes you feel superior
They gave you a response after you typed a long-ass comment and this is what you give...?
ran out of arguments already? How sad, I was just having fun.