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[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (16 children)
[–] TJD -1 points 9 months ago (15 children)

I have. Multiple fucking times

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (14 children)

Which post did you tell me what other things are in this omnibus?

[–] TJD 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The fucking article told you that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

All I saw in the article is that it involved matters related to fertility and childbearing. You said I was wrong. Tell me how.

[–] TJD 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You seriously fail to understand how "everything related to those topics" is not a single issue bill?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's all related to reproductive rights. Bills related to fundamental rights are often broad. For example the Civil Rights act of 1964 prohibits discrimination on race, color, religion, sex, or national origin. This is no different.

[–] TJD 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

So you agree it's broad then? Cool. They should either pass individual ballot measures or fuck off. Just crying "rights" isn't an excuse to sidestep good legislatige process

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Ballot measures are part of the legislative process. It's broad because it needs to be. Reproductive rights touch on a lot of areas. It's not a severable principle. It needs to be broad. The idea that it is overbroad is wrong.

[–] TJD 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's entirely severable. The article clearly listed multiple distinct topics. Measures could easily be made for each separate one.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It could be, but it wouldn't make sense as it wouldn't serve the purpose of the ballot initiative. It's all based on the same legal principle that the government does not have the right to infringe on an individual's rights to reproductive control.

[–] TJD 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I could make an entire encyclopedia of law just under one incredibly generic principle like you're doing. It doesn't make it into a specific policy just because it shares a theme.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Look at other ballot measures, like weed legalization. Those simple principles sprung an encyclopedia of laws too. ANY significant change to government policy will do that. Complexity is certainly not a reason to ignore the will of the voters.

[–] TJD 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Jesus you're fucking dense. Yes, there's an encyclopedia of laws to be passed. No, it doesn't justify forcing them all into one big yes/no

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You can keep insisting that it's an "encyclopedia of laws" but that doesn't make it true. Ballot initiatives are to determine the public stance on the issues. The public wants reproductive rights. It doesn't matter if you describe it in those 2 words or a thousand words. It means the same thing.

[–] TJD 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

So then vote on each specific law individually and stop throwing a fit if its all stuff you're confident in. Simple as.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Or Republicans could stop treating the public like idiots who can't decide on more than one thing at once. Funny how y'all have no problem with compendium bills when it comes to disenfranchisement of minority voters or cutting taxes on the wealthy.

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