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We are languishing in 10th, 8 points behind 'struggling' Man United. Defense is leaking goals, attack is largely misfiring and players are losing discipline.

The mentality has also become like that of a mid-table team. Nothing in and around the club screams world class at the moment.

I just don't find many differences between Chelsea and say, Crystal Palace (apart from the wages and all). As fans, should we also have a mid-table mindset? Satisfied with draws against the big boys and finishing the season with 45-50 points?

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (4 children)

This doesn't answer the question but a big deal is being made of Man U's struggles in the media (social and mainstream) so it's easy to use them as a benchmark for "just how bad are we?" However, they're not a good benchmark for that. Since the start of October, they're the form team in the league having won every game except vs Man City. They've lost two games in the UCL that they shouldn't be losing but that's it (and Galatasaray are in splendid form right now anyway).

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (3 children)

The thing with man u though is they haven't really looked very good in many games this season. Having a GD of 0 and 24 points is quite mental. So are they a good side who's grinding out results when playing poorly. Or are the results papering over the cracks.

They've only played 4 decent teams and lost all of them while struggling to beat the likes of sheff utd, Burnley and luton

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (2 children)

They’ve won so many games in the last minute. They’ve looked terrible in every performance. People have this idea that they’re just out of form and because they are still winning, it means when they are in form they will be winning even more. That’s just not how it works, you return to your average over time. Right now their results make them look better than they are and they will start drawing/losing more until Ten Hag becomes a better manager or Rashford does that thing where he pretends he’s a good player for 10 games

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I love how people just ignore injury crises when it's United that's affected. When Liverpool have an injury crisis it's on the News at Ten and people are holding vigils calling them heroes for not getting relegated.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

I mean injury impact is all relative. United compared to the people around them besides villa and Liverpool are the least injured. Teams like spurs are higher than them even after losing like 80% of their starters and new castle is right behind in the same spot.