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[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (21 children)

Fairphone is a for-profit business, correct?

If so, what's there to prevent the company from eventually (or even now) prioritizing profits over the longevity of its products? For example, let's say that their board wants to make higher margins. One way they can accomplish this is to use poor-quality parts in the initial product so that they need to be repaired more often, thus, they sell more replacement parts.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (5 children)

"How to convince myself that I can continue to consume from known bad companies."

They're a limited liability company, so no stock market pressure. As a Dutch BV voting majority can still lie with the founders.

They're on Fairphone 5 now, which is the first one I'd consider buying if I was in the market for a new one phone right now.

Most people buy a new phone if it gets damaged from a drop. It happens quite often. Here you can swap the parts cheaply and with only a screwdriver.

If you wonder how sturdy it is: https://youtu.be/H1UJ5k3yMvA?si=zQ1VEeA8YqMINUR7

This one dives deeper into the lifecycle: https://youtu.be/lU4vv7qCQvg?si=XiE0QBWP6iNMbQJ_

You can find the Lifecycle Analysis of Frauenhofer institute with a bit of googling.

And here's Louis Rossman on it: https://youtu.be/EAogtqyN22M?si=9slIZEuTbAZhE__Y

And remember, you can always switch away from Fairphone if they become "evil". It's not like Google, Amazon or the influence of Social Media companies that you can't escape.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

They're a limited liability company, so no stock market pressure. As a Dutch BV voting majority can still lie with the founders.

LLC doesn't mean it's automatically better. LLCs can also have investors and a board. Furthermore, it could be less advantageous to be a private company because you can't see into their financials and there is no transparency.

Most people buy a new phone if it gets damaged from a drop. It happens quite often. Here you can swap the parts cheaply and with only a screwdriver.

But the phone will get repaired (if it still has value) and gets resold. Anecdotally, most of my friends and family just get the screen repaired.

If you wonder how sturdy it is: https://youtu.be/H1UJ5k3yMvA?si=zQ1VEeA8YqMINUR7

Any drop test?

And here's Louis Rossman on it: https://youtu.be/EAogtqyN22M?si=9slIZEuTbAZhE__Y

Sorry, who? And what is the message? Not going to watch it.

And remember, you can always switch away from Fairphone if they become "evil". It's not like Google, Amazon or the influence of Social Media companies that you can't escape.

It uses Android, right? So why does it matter? You're going to get Google influence since it's Android no matter what.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

If you're going to be obtuse and combative for no good reason, at least have the decency to not ask questions you're not interested in hearing the answers to.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

How was I combative? Just curious.

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