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[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (15 children)

I wonder why they invest so much into the iGPU of their CPUs. Does anyone really buy a 13700k and then game on it's iGPU?

Perhaps someone here can clarify the logic behind this.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (9 children)

They’re planning to enter the handheld space with meteor lake. Gen to gen improvements with focus on igpu keep them relevant. Can’t fall behind in any space.

ROG Ally is a Z1 extreme AMD apu. Intel is making a meteor lake APU.

https://www.techpowerup.com/298007/intel-14th-gen-meteor-lake-apus-reportedly-feature-ray-tracing-may-lack-xess

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Ooh, very interesting, it would be cool to see Intel in the handheld space.

Though what you posted is about Meteor Lake (which is mobile only, not desktop). I specifically wondered about why they would include it in Arrow Lake (Desktop-) chips. Who would ever care about iGPU performance for high-end desktop CPUs?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Probably to compete with AMD's desktop APUs. The desktop APU space does rather well in the enterprise/education sector for mass deployment in office/IT rooms where a full on workstation isn't required.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

This was back when AMD didn't have iGPUs at all. Every intel non f sku is what AMD would have called an APU.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Yea see the the article I linked says that meteor lake is lacking in XMX and may be lacking XESS as a result, so I’m assuming that they just keep pouring R&D money at igpu sector and implementing the new builds so they can stay competitive.

Nobody is using it but they are using at the desktop level, but they are furthering the platform to be used in the handheld sector.

Also yea, commercial applications of APU’s. No need to for a discrete gpu to have a manageable workstation.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Arrow Lake will also have mobile SoC. Lunar Lake will only cover the low power mobile segment. Arrow Lake will cover everything else.

Furthermore, iGPU and CPU tiles are separated now, so they can replace the iGPU tile or take it out entirely if they want. My guess is Desktop SoC will have a gimped iGPU version.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

You are right, I forgot about mobile ARL.

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