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Long story short: we have been meeting each other for a while for semi-professional reasons, around two years now, although we only got close in the recent months. We have a very strong group of friends thanks to which we interacted a lot recently.

A job-related difficult situation arose recently and we have been extremely supportive to each other. We talk for hours at night about what's troubling us, we worry whenever one or the other is not in a good mood to extensive lengths. If she wakes up before me she always says good morning and ask me how's things.

I always thought of her as "way out of my league", and for this reason didn't even approach the concept of a relationship until recently: she is very fit while I am on the softer side, and I don't know what to think: she is extremely smart, intelligent, and would never reduce me down to my weight, but I do believe that looks play a part in all of this and honestly I believe myself as quite ugly. All of this didn't deter me from getting extremely infatuated with her, up to the point where she's all I can think about.

We'll have some time next week to be just by ourselves; she hates to trouble others, but she agreed without much fuss to let me accompany her at an important meeting, adding she'd be delighted to have me there.

On one side we have this wonderful friendship, and I'd genuinely hate for it to crumble. We so often joke together and talk about important things and I worry, what if my feelings are exaggerated and they end up ruining everything? Should I just make them quiet down? Of course I am basing all of this on the concept of a sure rejection, but the chance for them not liking me in "that" way is so strong in my head that I am also quite paralyzed.

But then again, a few days ago she re-posted a messenger screenshot in which I appear with a colored heart next to my name, and my brain obviously yeehaw'ed right into over-analysis: wow! a heart!! But.. is it colored because it is secondary, less important to the red one and thus indicating a strictly friendly relationship? Or maybe it's a special color (it does have some meaning for us two, would rather not explain as that'd be too sensible of an information) and thus acquiring the opposite meaning? I guess I would have understood better if other close friends of her appeared in the screenshots, as to gauge whether or not they also had a heart next to their name, but that didn't happen so I'm left with doubt.

Sorry for the rambly mess. Any suggestions and words about how to deal with this are more than welcome.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It’s kinda hard to say, from info given, what she might be thinking. Has she indicated, in any tangible way, that she’s interested in more than friendship? In my experience, a lot of men think a woman is interested because she’s simply being nice to them, and enjoys a friendship with them.

I know I’ve personally experienced it a bunch of time. I become friends with a guy, we text/chat/occasionally hang out, and then a month later he’s professing his undying love for me, and all I’m left wondering wtf happened (not saying this is you) to make him think that was my intent. I was just being friendly ffs.

Also, having a work/professional relationship makes it even more complicated. Are you peers? Are you higher in the food chain than her?

I guess what I’m asking, in not the most elegant way, does she flirt with you, or show you she’s interested in more than friendship?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Much of what you say hits home and sounds very true! Indeed, I know it might be hard to understand why the mixed feelings. To add more context: she is very timid, so sometimes it's hard to discern if some of her words are filled to the brim with friendly love only, or if there's another type of interest in there. We also recently started to compliment each other about looks, for example, but I am aware that this could simply be close friends breaking certain barriers that would be awkward at earlier stages :) This definitely answer your question though: realistically, there is no clear flirt or interest sign. If she wanted, she could've already showed so.

In truth, using the word delusional might have been a little too strong: I know for a fact that our friendship is 100% genuine, and that is what I cherish the most. All of the compliments I send her way are honest, and I believe my actions to not have second means. If I give her rides it's because I enjoy our talks, enjoy our time together. The friendship is definitely much clearer than any ulterior feeling I am thinking about here. I talked about infatuation, but truly, maybe the main reason for why I worry so much about her and why I care so much is that I didn't feel a bond this pure since years. I am just rambling here, this falls on me to understand, but the points you've brought forth are very valid.

Something I know for sure is that I would hate it for me to spoil the friendship which she is so clearly enjoying.

P.s. there's no work relationship binding us, we simply work close to each other and meet often during work hours. Our "though" professional time being the same time is purely coincidental.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I think you already have a good start here:

I know for a fact that our friendship is 100% genuine, and that is what I cherish the most. All of the compliments I send [your] way are honest, and I believe my actions to not have second means. If I give [you] rides it's because I enjoy our talks, enjoy our time together. The friendship is definitely much clearer than any ulterior feeling I am thinking about here.

Then tell her what you want, e.g., "I'd like to see if there's any romantic chemistry between us, can I take you out on an official dinner date?" Considering you two are close already, maybe you can have a deeper conversation about it; tell her your feelings and wants, and ask her what she wants out of a romantic partner (if she even wants one), and if you're in the ballpark of what she's looking for.

Also, I suggest going into this conversation with a relational mindset. You don't want to go into it worrying about what she'll say, or if you'll ruin what you have. You should be interested in what she has to say, and open to whatever she is feeling, and embrace the opportunity to get to know her better, even if you're not going to be in the picture as a romantic partner.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Well, that kinda means you have two options.

  1. Accept the friendship, and keep your mouth shut about how you feel, or
  2. Tell her how you feel, and accept how she responds, regardless of whether you like it.

IF you decide to tell her, there is a very real possibility she doesn’t feel the same, and the friendship will change. I know that I’ve felt like “this guy was only “friends” with me to get in my pants” before. I thought they had become a good friend, and then they asked me out after a few months of chatting, and I’m left wondering if it was all an act, or we had something with an ulterior motive.

You could try hinting, but that may not be a definitive way to tell, as it all may be read wrong.

I know I’m totally not helping you, sorry. It’s a very complicated thing, and there would need to be more info on how she is with/around you for any kinda of real suggestion. Like does she touch you, sit close, compliment, etc? Is she naturally like that with everyone?