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[–] Immersive_Matthew 4 points 1 year ago (17 children)

I do not get the communist comment as Lemmy really is about everything.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

I feel the OP. Communists are more active around the fedi I think. Nothing wrong about it. It's just a fact. Everyone should be heard in my opinion. Even thought the majority is still stuck in an ideology with almost 200 years that failed miserably every time it was implemented. Socialism is a bit more evolved. A mix of capitalism and socialism seems to be the sweet spot. My 2cents.

edit: typo

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Couple things here: Communism is Socialism, a form of it. Communism has never been "implemented" either, as it's specifically a post-Socialist stage. The ML states you're referring to were Socialist, and didn't reach Communism.

Secondly, the ML states were ML states, and as such were deliberately adapting new theory proposed by Lenin and distilled by Stalin.

I'm in no way a Stalinist, or a simp for the USSR, your comment is just wrong.

By your very same logical chain, Capitalism is an ideology 400 years old that failed miserably every time, as well as Socialism. It's meaningless word salad.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Marxist-Leninist. To simplify, Marx wrote some stuff, Lenin expanded on it and threw a revolution, shortly after which he fucking died. Stalin wrote a couple more sentences then distilled the ideology of Marxism-Leninism. That's why you have non-Marxist-Leninist Marxists/Leninists like the ICP, as word-salady as that sounds.

The essential factor is the belief in the use of a Vanguard Party to carry out a revolution and build up a Socialist state to whither into Communism.

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