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Is Systemd that bad afterall? (sopuli.xyz)

submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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SystemD is blamed for long boot times and being heavy and bloated on resources. I tried OpenRC and Runit on real hardware (Ryzen 5000-series laptop) for week each and saw only 1 second faster boot time.

I'm old enough to remember plymouth.service (graphical image) being the most slowest service on boot in Ubuntu 16.04 and 18.04. But I don't see that as an issue anymore. I don't have a graphical systemD boot on my Arch but I installed Fedora Sericea and it actually boots faster than my Arch despite the plymouth (or whatever they call it nowadays).

My 2 questions:

Is the current SystemD rant derived from years ago (while they've improved a lot)?
Should Linux community rant about bigger problems such as Wayland related things not ready for current needs of normies?

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Just try to implement user session management on a non systemd distro...

Systemd is way better than others init system. I'm using Alpine Linux on my phone and I really wait for a Fedora/Arch like PMOS project (it's on the way)

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

[pi@raspberry]# sudo su

Just saying, not everyone needs session management...

[–] SneakyThunder 8 points 2 years ago (3 children)

sudo su

Why spawn additional process when you can get into shell directly with sudo -s?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

Well, sudo itself is a purely optional component—you can run a system quite happily with just su .

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

What do you do with all the process you save with that trick ?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Because I already had my fingers closer to "su" than to "-s"... but really, because I tend to use sudo -E su on a remote terminal with a PS1 set to colorize the prompt based on whether I'm running root and the host if it's remote, but sudo -E -s doesn't run the root's .bashrc that runs the updated colorization while at the same time exports too much of the user's environment into the root shell.