All the historical evidence for Jesus in one room
this post was submitted on 03 Sep 2023
135 points (67.4% liked)
Atheist Memes
5595 readers
9 users here now
About
A community for the most based memes from atheists, agnostics, antitheists, and skeptics.
Rules
-
No Pro-Religious or Anti-Atheist Content.
-
No Unrelated Content. All posts must be memes related to the topic of atheism and/or religion.
-
No bigotry.
-
Attack ideas not people.
-
Spammers and trolls will be instantly banned no exceptions.
-
No False Reporting
-
NSFW posts must be marked as such.
Resources
International Suicide Hotlines
Non Religious Organizations
Freedom From Religion Foundation
Ex-theist Communities
Other Similar Communities
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
That wiki article presents zero historical evidence and is full of references to biblical scholars claiming there was s areal historical Jesus because the bible says so. Pure garbage source.
Thats literally not true. It provides multiple non-christian historians (Tacitus, Pliny the Younger, Josephus). Theres all kinds of charismatic leaders today that people ascribe religious meaning to, I'm not sure why some people have a hard time believing a charismatic dude had followers who believed he was god.
All of three of those men were born decades after the events.
Is the implication here that a bunch of Jewish people started pretending there was a guy named Jesus and that he was the messiah, and pretending that he lived a few decades back, and that multiple different sources very quickly picked up the same general story of this pretend man's life, and that's more plausible than people following a charismatic leader and deifying him after he died?
The written record we have only mentions two eyewitnesses by name. Both of which were saying this guy died. You don't need a cast conspiracy, only two people to keep a secret. The written record was authored by a person who was there when things were happening but saw nothing and heard nothing until years later.
What is more likely a charismatic leader vanishes from the entire historical record, the one person who writes the events down doesn't seem to know anything about what happened, and then silence for over 50 years? And when the records do start they just happen to be pulled from other popular myths of the time and place?
Ffs if they had copyright law back in the day the authors of the Gospels would have been sued for violating it.