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Growth in german wind capacity is slowing. Soo... then the plan is to keep on with lignite and gas? Am I missing something?

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[–] [email protected] 76 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (128 children)

Don’t import Reddit’s extremely ignorant takes on nuclear power here, please. Nuclear power is a huge waste of money.

If you’re about to angrily downvote me (or you already did), or write an angry reply, please read the rest of my comment before you do. This is not my individual opinion, this is the scientific consensus on the issue.

When it comes to generating electricity, nuclear is hugely more expensive than renewables. Every 1000Wh of nuclear power could be 2000-3000 Wh solar or wind.

If you’re about to lecture about “it’s not possible to have all power from renewable sources”, save your keystrokes - the majority of studies show that a global transition to 100% renewable energy across all sectors – power, heat, transport and industry – is feasible and economically viable. Again, this isn’t my opinion, you can look it up and find a dozen sources to back up what I am writing here.

This is all with current, modern day technology, not with some far-off dream of thorium fusion breeding or whatever other potential future tech someone will probably comment about without reading this paragraph.

Again, compared to nuclear, renewables are:

  • Cheaper
  • Lower emissions
  • Faster to provision
  • Less environmentally damaging
  • Not reliant on continuous consumption of fuel
  • Decentralised
  • Much, much safer
  • Much easier to maintain
  • More reliable
  • Much more responsive to changes in energy demands

Nuclear power has promise as a future technology. It is 100% worth researching for future breakthroughs. But at present it is a massive waste of money, resources, effort and political capital.

Nuclear energy should be funded only to conduct new research into potential future improvements and to construct experimental power stations. Any money that would be spent on nuclear power should be spent on renewables instead.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Again, this isn’t my opinion, you can look it up and find a dozen sources to back up what I am writing here.

Although I agree with this comment, this is exactly what the covidiots said. "Just google it". If you want us to believe your controversial opinion, you're going to want to take the time to add the most credible sources you can find to back you up.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The difference between my comment and a COVID denial comment is that if you googled covid denial arguments you’d find that 99.999% of results refute their claims. If you do the same for my claims, you’ll find the exact same sources that I used to make my arguments on the top page of the search results. It’s not the same.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If you used sources to make your argument it's not so hard to add them to your comment. Makes it just that much harder for people to call you out like what just happened.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 11 months ago

You know that I didn’t decide to just find out this stuff immediately before commenting, right? It’s not like I was searching this stuff up while I was writing my comment. I have learned about this over time by reading lots of sources, and I was trying to pass along what I have learned. That’s all.

The information I shared is not under any serious debate. For example, if I told you about the theory of evolution, would you ask me to source my claims? It’s established science. While I understand that others don’t have the education, knowledge and experience that I do, I don’t think it’s unreasonable to ask people who are interested in discussing a topic to do the bare minimum to inform themselves?

Unfortunately I haven’t kept notes and sources of everything I’ve read throughout the course of my life, but I can remember the findings, and I knew that I could find sources to back up my claims. Which, after being pushed for sources, I provided. Thereafter, the pro-nuclear trolls just start moving deckchairs around and continue to just spread disinformation.

No one has “called me out”, what do you refer to? Which claim do you think I have been pushed on that I have not satisfactorily debunked? I’m happy to run another class if there’s something you don’t understand?

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