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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)

It's a requirement for people to suffer for others to get ahead. It's the entire basis of our economy and given the unsustainable population, it's only going to get worse. Like much much worse. The redistribution of wealth would probably take a war tbh. There's a ton of people who just don't care, or have been indoctrinated to believe they deserve to suffer. No one wants to fight a war. We maintain status quo until the earth kicks us off. And we're left with sustainable population.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

Lol what. We have machines and automation now. We can just make manufacturing equipment "suffer" while the humans "get ahead".

The zero-sum worldview has been dead since the industrial revolution. Any widespread suffering at this point is the fault of humans.

Edit: unless you're trying to say something else?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So what are people supposed to do for money? Or do we get rid of that too

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Instead of money? I would imagine it would be money.

It's not that people stop working. We still need food, shelter, communication, entertainment, etc. Money is how you convert goods, and I don't understand how you think that need would vanish.

But worker efficiency is through the roof. One farmer can grow enough to feed thousands of people. A factory with 10 people can make millions of a given product a year. We can communicate from across the globe without anyone having to carry the message by hand. What makes you think we can't at the very least give everyone food and shelter in those circumstances? No one intrinsically has to suffer. It only happens because of human greed.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Right, even the Roman empire, where 90% of people were farmers, worked out how to give food to everyone. In countries where less than 1% of people are farmers they can't work out how to get enough food to people while ships dump excess grain in the ocean to stabilize prices?

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