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It seems that the Linux Foundation has decided that both "systemd" and "segmentation fault" (lol?) are trademarked by them.

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[–] [email protected] 119 points 1 year ago (21 children)

“Patent troll” and “required actions to preserve trademarks” are two totally different things. The former is objectively bad in all ways. The second is explainable if there truly is a trademark and said gear infringes on the trademark and may be excusable if the Linux Foundation is forced to act to preserve their branding (trademark law is weird). It’s even more explainable if this is a shitty auto filter some paralegal had to build without any technical review because IP law firms are hot fucking mess. I’m also very curious to see the original graphics which I couldn’t find on Mastodon. If they are completely unrelated and there was an explicit action by someone who knew better, the explanation provides no excuse.

Attacking any company because the trademark process is stupid doesn’t accomplish much more than attacking someone paying taxes for participating in capitalism.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 year ago (20 children)

Why does the Linux Foundation even have a trademark process for "segmentation fault"? According to the poster on Mastodon, these words were the whole design.

[–] [email protected] 86 points 1 year ago (11 children)

Just like champagne only comes from the champagne region of France, true segmentation fault only comes from a linux program shitting itself.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Linux is the imposter here. Segmentation fault refers to how the PDP-(I forget) hardware organized memory. It comes from the original unix implementation which linux has never had any part of.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They aren’t satinf they have a trademark on the phrase ‘ segmentation fault’. They are saying the artwork called ‘segmentation fault’ contains a trademarked image/logo/whatever

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What is this segmentation fault logo or image? I’m not familiar with anything like that and searching for it hasn’t helped.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

we don't know, the post does not elaborate

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

x86 and x86_64 still have segment registers so it's not exactly entirely archaic, but they're not really relevant so that doesnt change what you said. I dont have the exact details on who implemented segmentation first, so I cant elaborate on that.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It doesn’t matter because trademark law is about usage and active protection of rights, not origination.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It does matter because projects like *BSD can prove continuous usage of the term. As such either the trademark is easy to break (it is common use), or it can only be a trademark in very specific contexts that are unlikely to apply.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Sure, what I was saying is that whether someone else created it in the 70s isn’t significant for trademark law. If multiple entities have been using it since then without claiming exclusivity would be significant.

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