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[–] [email protected] 184 points 1 year ago (28 children)

I agree with the article that real estate is at the core of the issue. Always follow the money.

However, I also think some mid-level supervisor types get off on the power trip of making subordinates do things they don't want to do, such as wasting several hours a week commuting and polluting between home and office.

And of course you'll always have the suckups who want to score points by acting so eager to show up in person. They are the reason it's so hard to unify and fight these measures in many shops.

I'm not talking about people who have a genuine preference for working in the office. There are many legitimate reasons to have such a preference. I'm talking about psychos who want to force everyone to do it when it's not necessary, and don't support telecommuting as a legitimate way to work.

[–] penguin 10 points 1 year ago (14 children)

I disagree. It has nothing to do with real estate. CEOs simply prefer working in an office with all their underlings around.

It's cheaper to run a company if you need less office space. Even if you already have a ton of office space and it's going unused, it's cheaper to have an empty office than a full one.

Following the money leads to embracing a WFH-first mentality. So if it was just money, then these companies wouldn't be forcing people back.

But besides money, people also enjoy power and they feel more powerful in a full office than working from home. So that's what they pursue even if it costs more.

Just like how rich people will spend money on big houses and nice cars, not everything they do is to save more. They send money on things they like.

[–] ZodiacSF1969 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeh the real estate argument only accounts for part of the issue I think. The majority is, as you say, the psychological gratification of management and executives. They feel more power when they can see their 'kingdom'.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Agree, minor upper position tend to feel like "commanding" their below with a reason 'they have position on that' when working on office. WFH is the best alternative here for 'many' people to enjoy life and work with their own pace in peace without dictated by emotional impact from upper position that they will carry it wherever they are in certain circumstances and times, why we need to argue about this again? Covid time already proof this argument that productivitive has increased as people work in WFH environment. But this is just my opinion, of course everybody has their own view related this issue.

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