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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

Two wrongs don't make a right; we need to look at our own house before we can start throwing stones. Everyone needs to be pulling in the same direction in this boat.

Plus some other analogies.

The fact is we're running out of time on this and the ones who suffer will be future generations. Time to get our collective head out of our arse.

I recommend the book Ministry for the Future for a blow by blow account of what the geopolitics will be across the next 5 decades.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Its a competitive world and I don't want to make things harder for new Zealanders who are already struggling when there's a single country responsible for 30% of global emissions who isn't slowing down nor do they plan to even start slowing down for another 7 years. One country polluting more than the next 6 biggest countries combined.

Why should nz be punished? We have kept our population at a sustainable level we are making efforts to curb emissions. We could cut emissions to 0 and nothing would change.

I would like to see nz farmers have more regulations but I don't consider carbon emissions as that important. It would be fine if they pass but it would also be fine if they dont pass. I would rather see regulations for them to stop polluting waterways and something done about the local cost of meat and veggies.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Because again, it's the right thing to do.

I would like to see nz farmers have more regulations but I don’t consider carbon emissions as that important. It would be fine if they pass but it would also be fine if they dont pass. I would rather see regulations for them to stop polluting waterways and something done about the local cost of meat and veggies.

Why not both? How do you think the price of meat and veg is going to change once farmable land is no longer farmable? Once extreme weather events become twice a year? It is in everyone's best interests to work on this.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Where in the world is prior farm land not farmable because of climate change?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Lots of places. Large parts of the Midwest United States, India, Spain, north Africa. And it is only going to get worse.

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